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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:09 am    Post subject: New ending for "Carmen" Reply with quote

These people are CRAZY!!! crazy
This world is spinning out of control. Now they're going up against one of the most lyrical operas in the répertoire! I can't believe it... Poor Bizet! very upset

Director Leo Muscato gives Carmen new ending in support of Italy’s battered women
An Italian theatre director has rewritten the finale of Bizet’s Carmen to enlist the tragic heroine in a campaign to prevent violence against women, a social problem that cost more than a hundred lives in Italy last year.

In the revised final scene the gypsy cigar-maker is stabbed by her spurned lover, Don José, but manages to grab a pistol and shoot him, revolutionising the dénouement of Bizet’s opera in a version to be staged in Florence from Sunday. It is not clear if either, or both, succumbs to their injuries.

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/director-leo-muscato-gives-carmen-new-ending-in-support-of-italys-battered-women-fjffr9mkc
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:11 am    Post subject: New ending for "Carmen" Reply with quote

WHAAAAT ????? Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:29 am    Post subject: New ending for "Carmen" Reply with quote

I've had it about Political Correctness for a while now, and this tops it! It's beyond stupid!

Next we won't be allowed to read Tale of Two Cities or Queen Margot, or anything about Marie-Antoinette, because it would mean approving of the death penalty. Or Anna Karenina because that would be encouraging suicide, not to mention adultery! Rolling Eyes

Changing the ending ruins the whole drama of the story! You're right, Murat, these people are crazy! crazy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:36 am    Post subject: New ending for "Carmen" Reply with quote

OK, I've calmed down a bit now. wink

Really, anything goes! Rolling Eyes

Carmen is cruel, she throws men away after having used them, they don't point that out? Crimes of passion are still part of being human, far as I know...

This said, I adore this opera, especially the last scene "So you don't love me any more? But I still love you, Carmen I still love you.. Carmen I adore you" - Don José at Carmen's feet, would do anything to keep her.

All those censors seem to come from another planet, the planet of self-righteousness.. But well...

Next they'll go against Les Liaisons dangereuses, you'll see. Valmont hurt Mme de Tourvel too much...

ETA - I said Les Liaisons dangereuses because it's the first book that came to my mind, but Wildflower, the ones you mention are in the same boat too. As are so many others... It's never going to stop... Pale sigh
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:42 am    Post subject: New ending for "Carmen" Reply with quote

I, too, love the opera "Carmen". Changing the ending is a total betrayal. I also read that it's now set in the 1980's, in a Roma camp... Intriguing.

That reminds me of the way they changed the ending in the movie "The Scarlet Letter" (which I didn't see) because the actress (I think it was Demi Moore) said nobody would care because no one reads that book any more, and she wanted a Happy Ending. Rolling Eyes

Ay yes, Les Liaisons dangereuses are right there as a target. But Mme de Merteuil is as villainous as Valmont, so what will they do? confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:48 am    Post subject: Carmen modified in the name of Feminism Reply with quote

Well, this is one expense I won't have to make. I shall certainly never go and see that version of "Carmen"!

Leo Muscato should be fined for voluntary mutilation! one
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:51 am    Post subject: Habanera, my favorite aria! Reply with quote

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This is my favorite aria! I remember, a couple of years ago, UnMask organized a little show at Fairfield Seniors Center and invited opera singer Julia Benzinger to come sing. He told her "Habanera" was my favorite aria, so she started the show with it. very happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:56 am    Post subject: Re: New ending for "Carmen" Reply with quote

Anémone wrote:
Carmen is cruel, she throws men away after having used them, they don't point that out? Crimes of passion are still part of being human, far as I know...

Agreement completely. Carmen is a "serial user" of men. Don José was far from the first, and Escamillo would probably not have lasted very long.

I agree also with Steph that the director should be fined for voluntary mutilation. He must have had to change the lyrics too, like Don José telling the carabinieri "Arrest me, I did kill her" - Is it now Carmen who says (or sings) "Yes I killed him but it was self-defense"? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:59 am    Post subject: Poor Bizet! Reply with quote

Poor Georges Bizet! The premiere of "Carmen" at the Opéra-Comique was in 1875. It was a disaster and a hard blow for its author, and now, over a century and a half later, they changed his libretto. Shame on that Italian director!

The public's reaction was lukewarm, and Bizet soon became convinced of its failure: "I foresee a definite and hopeless flop".
Today, it is one of the most popular operas in the standard repertoire, but Georges Bizet’s Carmen faced many obstacles in even reaching the stage, let alone becoming a success. With a libretto based on a story that many considered too salacious for public performance, Carmen was roundly denounced as immoral by critics even before its score had been completed. The title role was rejected by nearly every female performer considered for the part, and the head of the theater in which the opera was to be staged pressured Georges Bizet for rewrites out of fear of financial calamity should the production prove a flop. Bizet himself did not live long enough to see Carmen gain acceptance as an operatic masterwork. He died of a heart attack at the age of 36, just three short months after Carmen had its world premiere at the Opéra-Comique in Paris on March 3, 1875.

The controversy that surrounded the debut of Carmen stemmed from its plot, which was drawn from the 1845 novel of the same name by Prosper Mérimée. In the adaptation for Bizet’s opera, Carmen is a wild and beautiful young gypsy girl who is working at a cigarette factory in Seville, Spain, when she captures the attention of a young army corporal named Don José. Though engaged to be married to the sweet and simple country girl Micaëla, Don José is seduced by the exotic Carmen in Act I, imprisoned for helping her escape the police in Act II and ensnared in a smuggling plot after deserting the army over her in Act III. None of which might have raised an eyebrow among 19th-century opera fans if weren’t for the events that follow in Act IV, when Carmen throws Don José over for the glamorous bullfighter Escamillo, inciting a jealous rage in Don José that culminates in his fatally stabbing Carmen outside the bullring in Seville.

It was this bloody storyline that caused an uproar within the critical establishment and within the leadership of the Opéra-Comique, which was known for somewhat more family-friendly productions. Even in the face of this controversy, Bizet refused to change the offending plot-points, and the mezzo-soprano Galli-Marié finally agreed to play Carmen. While audience and critical reaction to Carmen was decidedly mixed following its debut on this day in 1875, the opera won important admirers in Richard Wagner, Johannes Brahms and Pyotr Tchaikovsky before the year was over. Georges Bizet, however, died on June 3, 1875, after only 30 public performances of his most important work.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:40 am    Post subject: MY favorite scene in Carmen Reply with quote

Me, it's the ending that moves me terribly. The final duet, performed here by Béatrice Uria-Monzon and Roberto Alagna.

https://youtu.be/1phyGtKloYo

Hmmm... Don't know why this will not embed...
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