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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:18 am    Post subject: The GOP's new health care bill Reply with quote

Under the Republican’s new health care bill, women would face financial
repercussions for being poor. Or using birth control. Or being pregnant.
Or having children who need medical care.

Everyone’s Screwed!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/07/the-gop-s-obamacare-replacement-is-just-a-gigantic-tax-on-women.html

The Daily Beast
The GOP’s Obamacare Replacement Is Just A Gigantic Tax On Women
Erin Gloria Ryan
03.07.17 3:10 PM ET

After seven years of grandstanding and hand-wringing, this is the best
Republicans could come up with?

The GOP answer to the Affordable Care Act was unveiled only yesterday, and
it’s already about as big a hit as New Coke. Nobody seems to like it or
even see it as an improvement over what we already have, save Paul Ryan
and the underlings whose job it is to convince the public that they agree
with Paul Ryan. Liberals hate it. Conservatives hate it. And low-income
Americans will definitely hate it, once they realize what’s in it.

As policy analysts wade their way through the 123-page bill in an attempt
to glean its exact ins and outs, one thing is clear: this bill is not kind
to women. In fact, portions of it read as though Republican lawmakers
deliberately set out to make having female reproductive parts even more of
an expensive headache than it already is. The AHCA contains several ways
in which low-income women could be further encumbered with higher
healthcare costs and fewer choices.

The GOP’s plan guts the Medicaid expansion, defunds Planned Parenthood,
and sunsets a federal rule that requires that qualified insurance plans
cover things like mental health care, maternity care, and pediatric dental
and vision care, among other things. That means that states could
individually choose not to require insurance plans to cover maternity
care, and that women who are planning on having a child would need to
purchase special insurance riders, which would likely be prohibitively
expensive. Further, the fate of the ACA’s birth control mandate—which
allowed women to obtain contraception at no out-of-pocket cost, ostensibly
because making it extremely easy for a woman to not get pregnant is more
cost effective than dealing with a woman who is pregnant and does not want
to be—is also up in the air.

In short, if the House GOP plan were signed into law as-is, women could
face financial repercussions for being poor, or for using birth control,
or for not using birth control, or for giving birth, or for having
children who need medical care. How many iPhones does an out-of-pocket
Cesarean Section cost?

Stephanie Glover, senior policy analyst at the National Partnership for
Women and Families, lays out the AHCA’s one-two-three-four punch to
women’s health thusly: “One by one this would be really bad for
women’s health. Packaged in a single bill is pretty alarming.”

Glover believes that the bill, if enacted, would harm the financial health
of families and make it more difficult for women to choose their own
health care providers.

NARAL, unsurprisingly, isn’t too keen on the proposal, either. A
prepared statement from the pro-choice organization called the proposal a
“dangerous” collection of “greatest hits of failed Republican
proposals.”

It’s also not clear who will be paying for health care for poor women
and their families under this new plan, if not insurance or government
assistance. Money does not simply materialize because Paul Ryan thinks
freedom is the ability to buy things. Prior to the passage of the ACA, the
poor and uninsured waited to seek health care until it was serious enough
to warrant a trip to the emergency room. Then, because they had no way to
pay the bill, they’d skip out on it. Which drove the price of other
people’s health care up. One way or another, unless doctors are suddenly
supposed to turn a blind eye to women who can’t afford reproductive
health care giving birth in the streets, somebody is going to pay for
their health care.

The GOP bill is, at best, a less-good version of the flawed bill it was
supposed to replace. Liberals, moderates, and conservative Senators alike
are balking at the notion of passing it through as-is. But the architects
behind the House bill clearly aren’t totally stupid; they must have had
an inkling that some of the legislation’s wackier aspects would be cut.

Why, then, would House Republicans include so much language in their bill
that specifically targeted the poor and/or female, unless it was to throw
red meat to a base that wanted to see those groups punished? And what does
that say about the moral character of their base?

For all of its flaws, at least the Affordable Care Act gave women relief
from the nightmare of the unfettered insurance market, from politicians’
short-sighted attempts to charge men and women different prices for health
care. As though having female body parts is a choice. As though men
don’t owe their lives and existence to the bodies of women.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:20 am    Post subject: Insured Through Your Job? Here's What Could Change Reply with quote

Insured Through Your Job? Medicaid? The ACA? Here's What Could Change

Consumer Reports:
The GOP plan to replace the Affordable Care Act is likely to affect you no
matter how you get health insurance now.

Read more:
http://www.consumerreports.org/healthcare-reform/insured-through-your-job-medicaid-the-aca/
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:21 am    Post subject: Trump had promised insurance for everybody Reply with quote

24 Million People Stand To Lose Insurance Under GOP Obamacare Replacement

Read more:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/24-million-more-uninsured-under-gop-obamacare-replacement_us_58c6ebb2e4b0598c6698b098?dw8jqotcy8z4obt9&
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:24 am    Post subject: Trump's Lies on Wiretapping, Health Care Reply with quote

Trump's Lies on Wiretapping, Health Care
Seth takes a closer look at Trump's outlandish claims on wiretapping and the Republican plan to repeal and replace Obamacare.

https://youtu.be/_isYp06LPts


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:56 pm    Post subject: Why not Trumpcare replacing Obamacare? Reply with quote

I heard a rather astute comment today on TV - Trump, who puts his name on everything he can - tower, hotels, whatnot - carefully refrained from calling his replacement of the ACA "Trumpcare". Could it be that even he realizes that it's going to be a disaster? Millions of people are going to find themselves out of any health care insurance.

He did say that it was "more complicated" than he realized. Just like being president is a lot harder job than he realized. So he tweets and plays golf. Makes a laughingstock of himself and the country. Wreaks havoc nationwide and worldwide.

Thank you oh so much, Trump supporters and voters! Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:31 am    Post subject: Republican health care bill raises premiums for older, poor Reply with quote

CBO: Republican health care bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by more than 750%
German Lopez

The Republican-backed would be totally devastating to older Americans who rely on the individual market for insurance, according to an analysis by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).

The bill does bring down overall premiums in the individual market by about 10 percent by 2026 compared with what they would be under current law, the CBO found. But the CBO includes a big caveat: This would greatly differ based on age and income.

The CBO offers an example of a single individual with an annual income of $26,500.
If that person is 21 years old, he’ll largely benefit from the Republican health care bill. Under the Affordable Care Act (also known as Obamacare), he would on average pay $1,700 in premiums for insurance. Under the Republican plan, he would pay $1,450.

But if that person is 64 years old, he would be hurt by the Republican bill. Under Obamacare, he would also pay $1,700 in premiums for insurance. But under the Republican bill, he would pay $14,600 — more than half his annual income. That amounts to more than a 750 percent increase in premiums from Obamacare to the Republican bill.

A 64-year-old who’s making $68,200 a year would fare a bit better. Under Obamacare, he’s expected to pay $15,300 in premiums for insurance — because his income would be too high to receive the law’s tax credits. But under the Republican bill, everyone below $75,000 gets a tax credit based on age . So he would get a subsidy that would reduce his premium to $14,600 — just barely enough to be lower than it would be under Obamacare.

Here’s how all of that looks in chart form:

Older people with an annual income of $75,000 or more would get fewer to no subsidies under the Republican bill. So they would likely face higher premiums than they did under Obamacare, much like the lower-income consumer.

The Republican bill accomplishes all of this in two ways.

First, it abandons Obamacare’s income-based tax credits (which give more money to people with lower incomes) to instead give anyone with an annual salary below $75,000 a tax credit based on age, with older people getting more money and a phaseout for higher incomes.
But it also peels back an Obamacare rule that protects older people from higher premiums. Under Obamacare, insurers are generally only allowed to charge an older person about three times what they would charge a younger person — under the theory that older people are often sicker and therefore need to use more insurance. But under the Republican bill, the limit of three times would go up to five times, effectively letting insurers charge older people 66 percent more than they would under Obamacare.

Republicans argue this is necessary because it would also let insurers charge younger people less, which would encourage younger and generally healthier people to come into the insurance pool — and therefore bring down the overall cost of health care by making it so more younger, healthier people are effectively subsidizing everyone’s care.

The CBO found that’s broadly true. It would bring insurance premiums down in general, and it would cost young people less to get signed up for a health plan. But it would do all of that at a high cost for older Americans.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:43 am    Post subject: Trump’s Whopping Health-Care Lie Exposed Reply with quote

Trump’s Whopping Health-Care Lie Exposed
The GOP screamed about ‘if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.’ Trump says he’ll ‘take care of everybody.’ The CBO says millions will lose coverage.
BY Michael Tomasky

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/13/donald-trump-s-big-health-care-lie-puts-barack-obama-s-weak-one-to-shame.html?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning

Let’s first travel back in time to 2013, when Barack Obama was pilloried for saying “if you like your health-care plan, you can keep it.” Remember the furor over that?

Because he said it a lot, and it turned out to be untrue. And the right went absolutely ballistic—not only was Obama a bald-faced liar, but it showed what a shell game the whole health-care overhaul law was. It turned out that only 4 million people out of a total of more than 250 million insured lost their health-care plans, but still, 4 million is 4 million flesh-and-blood Americans. Obama’s lie was, as you might recall, named the “Lie of the Year” for 2013 by Politifact, which counted 37 separate times Obama had said with no caveats that everyone would be able to keep their coverage.

Well, I don’t know exactly how many times candidate and President Donald Trump has said things like everyone will have coverage under his Obamacare replacement. But it was a lot. His plan would be “something terrific.” “I am going to take care of everybody.” “Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.” It must be dozens. And that’s on top of the dozens of denunciations of Obamacare as a “disaster” that wasn’t helping people.

Well, now we have the Congressional Budget Office’s assessment of the Republican replacement plan (which technically burst from the womb as Ryancare rather than Trumpcare, thought the White House pledged late last week to move heaven and earth to pass it even as it remains the one thing that Trump emphatically doesn’t want to smack his name on). And what does the CBO have to say about this terrific plan that’s going to take care of everybody and rescue America from the disaster?

It has to say: 14 million more uninsured by 2018. That’s a year and change! Fourteen million people thrown back to the wolves. And more—an additional 7 million by 2020, and 3 million more by 2024, making for a grand total of 24 million people who currently have health coverage thrown off the rolls as a direct result of this bill, the Republican “replacement” bill.

If Obama got Lie of the Year over 4 million, what does Trump get over 24 million? True, the competition for lies is a lot more robust than it was in that now innocent-seeming year of 2013. But surely this deserves some kind of prize.

Oh, there’s more. Remember all those times you heard Trump trash the premium increases under Obamacare? Not, I will note, without justification. Premium increases and high deductibles have been a bane of Obamacare for many consumers.

But what does the CBO say TRyancare will accomplish on the premium front? It projects increases in 2018 and 2019 of about 15 or 20 percent higher than under Obamacare.

Also, the CBO says that the Republican plan really socks it to a group that it’s never politically very wise to sock it to. I refer you to Table Four on page 34 of this .pdf, listing the CBO’s estimated premium increases for 21-, 40-, and 64-year-olds at different income levels under the GOP plan. The most striking thing is this: Under current law (Obamacare), a 64-year-old earning $26,500 a year pays a net premium (after the tax credit) of $1,700. RyanTrumpCare whacks away at that earner’s tax credit such that he is left paying a whopping $14,600.

But hey, there’s good news! Premiums for many could be lower by 2026, provided of course they’re still alive in 2026. And the GOP plan would reduce the deficit, which stands to reason, since it cuts back so sharply on Medicaid subsidies.

But somehow, “Republican Health Plan to Reduce Deficit by $337 Billion” is not the headline that’s going to come out of this. This is a bloodbath for the Republican Party, and it is a much-deserved baptism by blood for Trump into the particular brand of duplicity that is the modern GOP.

Because there are two styles of duplicity afoot in Washington right now. There’s Trumpian dishonesty, which consists of his plain-faced lies about his behavior and his evidence-free outbursts like the one he directed at Obama two weekends ago.

Then there’s your more standard Republican duplicity, like promises that health care would be easy to bring to everyone if we just got government out of the way and let the market work its wondrous magic. That may be how it works in Ayn Rand novels, but that isn’t how it works in the actual world. In the actual world, anyone who’s given the matter five minutes of honest thought (emphasis on honest thought) comes to the obvious realization that the only thing that can bring premiums and deductibles down is for more healthy people to have to buy insurance.

And from there, if you’re being honest, you then realize that the only entity that can make people buy insurance is the federal government; and that you have to give them an incentive to do so, which means subsidies. And all that spells Obamacare. It’s complicated and flawed, sure. But any attempt to do it any other way will wind up where the CBO just tossed RyanTrumpCare: in the garbage, where it belongs.

Paul Ryan must know this deep down. Or no—lately we’ve begun to realize that maybe he doesn’t, right? That jaw-dropping line of his about it being the “fatal conceit” of Obamacare that the healthy pay for the sick revealed, as many have by now observed, that he doesn’t seem to understand what insurance even is.

And Donald Trump clearly doesn’t know it. That line of his a few weeks ago, equally jaw-dropping, that “nobody knew that health care could be so complicated” was a howler. No, Donald. We all knew. It’s just that you didn’t, because while you were out there on the stump lying repeatedly about giving people the best possible coverage, you weren’t bothering to actually learn anything about the topic. Now you have to.

Let us hope the voters of 2018 teach you, and teach you well.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:46 am    Post subject: Analysis Projects 26M Will Lose Insurance Coverage Reply with quote

White House Analysis Projects 26M Will Lose Insurance Coverage

An independent White House analysis of the American Health Care Act says the proposed overhaul will cause 26 million people to become uninsured, according to a document obtained by Politico. The White House analysis predicts even higher uninsurance rates than a report prepared by the Congressional Budget Office, which warned that 24 million Americans would become uninsured. The White House report contradicts earlier claims from Tom Price, President Donald Trump’s secretary of health and human services, who dismissed the CBO report. “We disagree strenuously with the report that was put out,” Price told reporters Monday evening after the CBO released its report. “It’s just not believable is what we would suggest.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/obamacare-uninsured-white-house-236019
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:49 am    Post subject: WH Disputes CBO Findings Reply with quote

White House ‘Strenuously’ Disagrees With CBO Report on GOP Health-Care Plan

The White House on Monday said it “strenuously” disagrees with the Congressional Budget Office’s analysis of the Republican health-care replacement plan. The nonpartisan budget analysis agency projected in its report that 14 million individuals would lose health-insurance coverage in 2018 under the House GOP’s plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. Additionally, the CBO estimated the figure would increase to 24 million people without insurance by 2026. Health & Human Services Secretary Tom Price, however, stressed that the GOP proposal goes beyond the House bill, and that it will lower costs and cover more individuals. The 14-million uninsured figure, Price added, “is just not believable, is what we would suggest.”

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3a7793a95ceb4205a0a14df4f6cf056d/latest-ryan-defends-health-bill-after-cbo-report
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:53 am    Post subject: Sanders: 'Thousands of Americans Will Die' With AHCA Reply with quote

Bernie Sanders: 'Thousands of Americans Will Die' With AHCA

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., slammed the GOP replacement healthcare plan Monday following a report estimate more than 24 million Americans would be uninsured over the next 10 years if the bill passed, saying, "thousands of Americans will die" as a result.

"If this legislation is passed and millions of people are thrown off health insurance . . . thousands of Americans will die," Sanders said, per The Hill.

"I think that legislation is disgusting. It is immoral," he said. "It must defeated, and I hope there is enough sense amongst some of the Republicans."

The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimated 52 million people would be uninsured by 2026 under the American Health Care Act, "compared with 28 million who would lack insurance that year under current law."

Many of the provisions of the Republican bill would not take effect until 2020.

Still, the CBO said effects on healthcare coverage would be felt almost instantly, with the initial drop-off in care occurring after Obamacare gets repealed by Congress. The report also estimated the bill would reduce the federal deficit by $337 billion dollars during the next 10 years and save the government $6 billion.

The CBO report had mixed reactions from lawmakers. House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said there would be a stable transition for Americans, while House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., said the report confirms the American Health Care Act would use "conservative and free-market principles that will empower Americans with access, choice and affordability."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Bernie-Sanders-AHCA-repeal-and-replace-CBO/2017/03/13/id/778503/?ns_mail_uid=103631853&ns_mail_job=1718345_03142017&s=al&dkt_nbr=cfcbrlda
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