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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:23 am    Post subject: Possible Oprah Winfrey Run: A Debate On Pros And Cons Reply with quote

Possible Oprah Winfrey Run: A Debate On Pros And Cons
Oprah Winfrey's rousing speech Sunday evening during the Golden Globes kicked off talk about a possible presidential bid in 2020. Winfrey denies WH ambitions. The Morning Joe panel debates Winfrey's merits and if the country needs more celebrity presidents.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:40 pm    Post subject: As Trump‘s Celebrity Grows More Toxic, Oprah Makes Sense Reply with quote

As Trump’s Racism Pisses Off an Entire Continent, Oprah Winfrey Starts to Make More Sense
Why should Democrats continue to pretend that what Americans want is a two-term governor or Senator with a lengthy legislative record when what they really want is a national show?
Joy-Ann Reid

This week, America endured two new developments in the continuing chaos of our politics: Donald Trump’s reprehensible slander against the 54 nations on the African continent and the people of Haiti; and the floating of Oprah Winfrey as the 46th American president. The two seem unrelated. I would suggest they are not.

Trump’s inability to contain his racist tick once again exposed the crude xenophobia and fear of the future that his political movement represents, and the downward moral drift of the Republican Party. It also struck yet another Trumpian blow to America’s soft power.

Trump is reviled around the world, as is the U.S. under his leadership. The United Nations high commissioner on human rights denounced his vile remarks. Haitians rose in mass fury online. The African Union, which cooperates with us on anti-terrorism efforts that include some 6,000 U.S. soldiers deployed on the continent, demanded an apology. What country would welcome the American president to their capitol today? Surely none in Africa, where country after country issued withering condemnations of Trump on Friday and where China is already being welcomed in as the new global economic hegemon. Not Great Britain, whose Commonwealth includes several countries that would make Trump's "shit hole" list and which had already so rebelled against a presidential visit that it finally frightened the American bully away. And not even Norway, Trump’s go-to source for fresh, white immigrant recruits, whose citizens took to Twitter Friday to pour on the Trump loathing.

Trump cannot exert the moral authority normally commanded by the American president. His few international friends have their own fiendish reputations. Israel is led by a perennial cynic who when he’s not stomping Palestinian hopes into the ground or being embarrassed by his ironically alt-right son, remains under a criminal corruption investigation. Tayyip Erdogan allegedly colluded with the disgraced former National Security Adviser of the United States to kidnap a Turkish émigré and rendition him to Ankara to answer for a 2016 coup. Trump has humbled our country under the shadow of China’s autocrat Xi Jinping. He pals around with the proud butcher Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines. And he continues to both emulate and worship the thuggish kleptocrat Vladimir Putin.

In the epic Netflix series “The Crown,” a young future Queen Elizabeth takes her studies, such as they are, and is instructed by her tutor that the British government operates best when there is harmony between its two parts: the “efficient,” which makes and executes the laws, and the “dignified,” which legitimizes the enterprise through the moral authority of the Crown. The American presidency combines elements of the efficient and the dignified. The president presides over governance – not making legislation but proposing it, cajoling the co-equal federal legislature and then signing and executing the laws. But he – and so far it has always been a “he” – also gives the national government its face, its image and its global reputation. Donald Trump, perhaps because as Michael Wolff posits in his opus, Fire and Fury, is in the grip of mental decline, clearly cannot execute the efficient. He is like a child king being plied with chocolate cake and led around by a gaggle of self-serving regents including Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell and the other congressional suck-ups who use their outward sycophancy to bend Trump to their legislative will. But it is his inability to fulfill the dignified that has been the most stressful, humiliating, and indeed dangerous for our democracy.

Which brings us to Oprah Winfrey.

Now, I will admit that I was merely having fun when I tweeted on Golden Globes night the now well-worn meme, “nothing but love for my president,” in reaction to her powerful speech upon accepting the Cecil B. DeMille Lifetime Achievement Award. I even threw in a little dig at the other seemingly absurdist 2020 presidential candidate Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, whom I demoted to Bizarro World V.P. But apparently, people across this Trump-exhausted nation are taking the idea of a second consecutive celebrity POTUS seriously.

And while part of me – ok most of me – recoils at the idea of codifying the Trump presidential model with a famous follow-on, as the nation’s moral meltdown continues, I cannot discount the idea of President Oprah out of hand. Here’s why.

America tells itself a lot of lies, but none so bald faced as the one that we are a high-minded people who choose our presidents based on a strict study of their qualifications and their history of exceptional governance.

On the contrary, Americans rarely know much about our candidates other than the log lines of their bios: that they are or were a governor, a Senator, or a military general (the three most frequent categories from which our presidents have come). Until the mid-1960s, popular will played no part in the choice of which candidates got the nominations of the two major parties. The decision was made in back rooms or by exclusive state conventions and caucuses, with a few beauty contest primaries thrown in for show. Thus, the candidates who competed every fourth November were the product of party and media personality marketing. (The media has never been particularly good at explaining the actual ideas at issue in campaigns.) Americans instinctively respond to a gut feeling about those candidates, to their own partisanship and political tribalism, and to intangible characteristics about the people on the ballot, not to the details of their resumes.

Andrew Jackson, Trump’s inspiration and the genocidal maniac behind the “trail of tears,” became president on the strength of his national fame as a military man during the war of 1812.

Likewise, Dwight Eisenhower, a decent, honorable man who had never even voted, was offered the Democratic nomination by Harry Truman in 1948 and turned it down before being offered the Republican nomination by the back room boys four years later. Why did he accept in 1952, and why did he win? Because the five star general and supreme allied commander of NATO was the most famous and popular figure to emerge from World War II.

Popularity has always been the key currency in choosing a president.
But whether or not she should run for president, or would even want to, let’s not kid ourselves. If she ran, Oprah could win. She could win because despite being black and a woman, who would likely still lose a majority of white women’s votes to whatever Republican ran against her, including Donald Trump, those very qualities would help her turn out the 200,000 additional votes in Milwaukee, Detroit and Philadelphia that cost Hillary Clinton the Electoral College. And she could win because Oprah is more than the sum of her demographic parts. She is a rich celebrity with universal name recognition who is generally beloved among a cross-section of Americans across the political divide – at least, until the attack ads begin.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:31 pm    Post subject: Oprah 2020: Saving Us From Our Sh*thole President Reply with quote

Oprah 2020 Fantasy: Saving Us From Our Sh*thole President
Engaging in an imaginary debate over Oprah's imaginary run is so much better than facing the reality of our Tweeter-in-Chief.
BY Erin Gloria Ryan

On Sunday—less than a week ago, which somehow feels like 10 years ago—Oprah gave a nice speech at the Golden Globes, and people lost their fucking minds.

Though Winfrey did not say that she was running for office, or that she had some public policy ideas, or that she was planning on giving other, similar speeches, the media reacted with the adrenalized zeal of a lovesick Rom-Com cliché, who makes eye contact with a handsome stranger across a room and, within minutes, has already mentally picked out their wedding china. What would her imagined campaign look like? What would her imagined victory look like? What’s an imaginary way to argue against her imaginary candidacy? TV stars running for office have already screwed the country up; she should be imaginary ashamed of herself.

Oprah is a singular figure, a black woman who has made billions from nothing and managed to do it without pillaging the environment like a Koch brother or trapping millions in hopeless poverty like a Walton. She traffics in inspiration. Having a president who doesn’t drive every late-night comedian and journalist insane with rage would be nice.

But at the same time, the embrace of Oprah’s imaginary candidacy ignored some key parts of Winfrey’s career. It hasn’t been all car giveaways and favorite things. She’s also introduced the American public to some questionable science and quackery during her long career.

Oprah championed Rhonda Byrne’s The Secret, a book that touts the value of positive thinking and claims that its readers can attract wealth to themselves by imagining it. At best, the book is little more than a way bored people convince themselves that they are magically attracting good fortune. But at its worst, it can cause real harm. One devoted fan of both Oprah and The Secret decided she would use the book’s magical thinking to cure herself of cancer. Even after Oprah had her on her show in an attempt to talk her out of foregoing western medicine, the woman died of cancer in 2010.

Oprah’s show provided a platform for Jenny McCarthy to spread falsehoods about the link between vaccination and autism, a pervasive and dangerous myth that has led to small outbreaks of such old-timey diseases as the whooping cough.

Oprah is responsible for the careers of Doctors Phil and Oz.

“I think we’re all so fucking sick of thinking about our stupid lump of a president and his squad of ingrates, so tired of conjecturing all the possible ways in which he will hurt people or screw things up, that we need Oprah.”

And the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy For Girls in South Africa made headlines shortly after opening in 2007, when an administrator was accused of physically and sexually abusing girls.

None of these things disqualify Winfrey from being President, but they are serious concerns that a serious press should have considered before losing their shit after a Cecil B. DeMille award acceptance speech.

I’ve thought a lot about why the press and public went so nuts on Sunday. I’ve thought about it as I’ve mopped up tracked-in muddy sidewalk snow from my kitchen floor, as the nights seem endless and the days seem short, as I’ve ordered my first ever seasonal depression lamp from Amazon and tracked it online, impatient. (After I got it, I never opened the box. It’s just sitting there. The promise of one day opening it means that no day is completely without purpose.) I’ve thought about it as my normally voracious appetite for the self-serious stupidity of news and politics has waned and turned to a tightness in my chest, a sour taste in my mouth.

I’m not alone. On Thursday, the Boston Globe’s Deputy Washington Bureau Chief Matt Viser echoed my ennui, tweeting “President Trump wakes up. He watches TV. He tweets. Everyone not paid by Trump goes, ‘Huh!?!’ White House: C’mon. The tweets don’t actually mean what they actually say! Everyone spends the day discussing how absurd WH claims are. Sleep. Wake up. Repeat. Day after day after day.”

The news hasn’t been fun in the traditional sense for a long time. But it seemed like, for awhile there, I had gotten used to the stink. But I’m so tired. We’re all so tired. Paying attention to this president is like being on a Merry Go Round that never stops, and keeps turning faster and faster, and the only thing I’ve ingested in the last 24 hours is cotton-candy flavored vodka, which, in this metaphor, I have drank on a dare. I’m sick of looking at all the horses, I’m sick of the other people on the ride.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:27 am    Post subject: Trump Campaign 2020 Reply with quote

I posted this here because of the title, which may be misleading. It is also possible that this video, or part of it, has already posted somewhere else in this forum. Like Do Quy, I go with titles, I don't always have the time to watch the clip all the way through.

The Daily Show With Trevor Noah - March 13, 2018 | Trump Campaign 2020
Published on Mar 13, 2018


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:22 am    Post subject: Damn... Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:23 am    Post subject: Jeff Flake: GOP should challenge Trump Reply with quote

It looks very much like Flake himself is going to do the challenging. wink

Jeff Flake: GOP should challenge Trump
CBS News
Published on Mar 17, 2018
Retiring Arizona Senator Jeff Flake was critical of President Trump during a "Politics and Eggs" event at St. Anselm College in New Hampshire on Friday. Flake also called on the GOP to challenge President Trump, but dispelled rumors that he would primary the president in the 2020 election.


Sen. Jeff Flake on why he's being "forceful" against Trump
CBS This Morning
Published on Oct 25, 2017
In a Washington Post op-ed, Republican Sen. Jeff Flake writes of President Trump's behavior: "It's time we all say: Enough." The Arizona senator, who said Tuesday he will not seek re-election, joins "CBS This Morning" from Capitol Hill to discuss why he's also urging other lawmakers to speak out.



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 12:38 am    Post subject: Why Democrats' 2020 Candidates Are Already Losers Reply with quote

Why Democrats' 2020 Candidates Are Already Losers
This is not from Fox News, it's from The Young Turks! super grin

The Young Turks
Published on Nov 29, 2016
The establishment is making their picks for the next election and they suck. Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, breaks it down


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 12:40 am    Post subject: A look at potential 2020 contenders Reply with quote

Ah yes. This is from Fox News. super grin

A look at potential 2020 contenders
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Published on Jan 4, 2018
Democratic White House race starts to take shape.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:59 am    Post subject: Romney Predicts Trump Will ‘Easily’ Win Again in 2020 Reply with quote

What planet is he living on?

Mitt Romney Predicts Trump Will ‘Easily’ Win Again in 2020

Mitt Romney has predicted that Donald Trump will stroll to a second term in office in 2020. The GOP’s failed 2012 presidential nominee, who previously called Trump a “con man” and “a fake,” said he foresees six more years of Trump’s presidency, saying the president will “easily” win his party’s nomination in 2020 and “solidly” win a second term. “I think that not just because of the strong economy and the fact that people are going to see increasingly rising wages,” Romney said, “but I think it’s also true because I think our Democrat friends are likely to nominate someone who is really out of the mainstream of American thought and will make it easier for a president who’s presiding over a growing economy.” Romney delivered the remarks on the first day of a three-day, closed-door summit in Utah’s mountains as he welcomed high-profile business and political leaders—including House Speaker Paul Ryan and billionaire former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg—to the event.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:19 pm    Post subject: Well...... Reply with quote

Trump announced he will run again in 2020 on Air Force One....

He doesn't see any strong opponents to him in the election, and he knows them all.

He still holds a 46% approval rating in the Rasmussen daily tracking pole, the only daily tracking pole there is....

Mitt Romney is probably right about Trump winning....
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