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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:01 am    Post subject: The Oscars Reply with quote

Brutally Honest Oscar Ballot #4: 'Moonlight' "Everything I Think An Oscar Picture Should Be," 'La La Land' "A Piece of Shit"
by Anonymous, as told to Scott Feinberg

I did not see Hacksaw Ridge because I heard it was very bloody and, living in the era of Trump, I felt like there's enough violence in the world. I also didn't see Hidden Figures, on the advice of someone in my family who told me it did not seem strong enough to be an Oscar contender.
As for the seven I did see: I did not like La La Land — I thought it was imitative and I did not think the leads could sing or dance. I am of an age where I saw [1953's The] Band Wagon and [1952's] Singin' in the Rain, so how could I give this one an award that they never got? Yes, the music is good, but the fact that it got 14 nominations makes me wonder about my colleagues' opinions. I really felt it was a piece of shit.
I didn't understand Arrival — what was going on it or why they made it. I liked Hell or High Water a lot — Jeff Bridges is wonderful. I thought the screenplay of Manchester by the Sea was better than its execution — it was just too long and gloomy. I admired Fences a lot for telling an important story about being black in America and not succeeding in the way that you hoped to. I thought Lion was extraordinary. It tells a beautiful story, and it's unfortunately the story of the world we're living in, where no one seems to be able to be with their own family — they either flee or are deported.
My choice was Moonlight, which is everything I think an Oscar picture should be: good script, good story, good performances and about something meaningful. It's not quite The Best Years of Our Lives, but it shows what it's like to live in a world where we seem to be disconnected from our families. Here, a child gets saved from — is she [the character played by Naomie Harris] his mother or his sister? — and gets a [surrogate] father that he didn't have. I loved it.

My vote
(1) Moonlight
(2) Lion
(3) Fences
(4) [left blank]
(5) [left blank]

I have seen none of the movies, so I'm not really interested in the results. In that bazaar that's Hollywood, it's more about politics than about cinema.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:06 am    Post subject: The Oscars Reply with quote

I watched with one eye while reading with the other... I had seen none of the movies (though I'd like to see "Arrival" and the one about the black women working at NASA, can't remember the title.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:12 am    Post subject: The Oscars Reply with quote

The Oscars have become the festival of Political Correctness and Noble Causes. Last year, all they talked about was the fact that there were no Blacks in the running. Of course that has to be remedied. And we can expect a tidal wave against Trump's policies et the immigration issue. Re: "La La Land", the big favourite for Best movie - just seeing the title makes me yawn. sleep
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:13 am    Post subject: Oscar contenders Reply with quote

I found "La La Land" entertaining, and some scenes were moving, but nothing more. Considering the huge publicity that movie got, I guess I was expecting too much.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:20 am    Post subject: Oscar winners, 2017 Reply with quote

Best Picture: “Moonlight”

Actor: Casey Affleck, “Manchester by the Sea”

Actress: Emma Stone, “La La Land”

Supporting Actor: Mahershala Ali, “Moonlight”

Supporting Actress: Viola Davis, “Fences”

Animated Feature: “Zootopia”

Cinematography: “La La Land”

Costume Design: “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them”

Direction: Damien Chazelle, “La La Land”

Documentary Feature: “O.J.: Made in America”

Documentary Short: “The White Helmets”

Film Editing: “Hacksaw Ridge”

Foreign Language Film: “The Salesman”

Makeup and Hairstyling: “Suicide Squad”

Score: “La La Land”

You're right, Murat. It was all very politically correct, with lots of not very subtle digs at Trump. They gave the Oscar for Best Foreign Movie to the Iranian film, whose director could not attend the ceremony, being from one of the 7 banned countries. Which fact was heavily underlined. You were also correct, this year the award winners had a lot of colour, LOL. shameless grin
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:03 am    Post subject: CSI Oscars Reply with quote

CSI Oscars: Decoding What Happened During the Great Best Picture Gaffe of 2017
Kevin Polowy

In what will inevitably go down in one of — no, the — craziest moment in Oscar history, presenters Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway announced the wrong winner for Best Picture at the Academy Awards late Sunday night. They called La La Land. That film’s team came up onstage and began making speeches. Then, in a moment of mayhem and confusion, La La Land producer Jordan Horowitz told the world that there was a mistake. Moonlight was the real winner.

That much we know. But questions abound, even after Beatty stepped up to the microphone to insist he was given the wrong envelope, one for Best Actress that Emma Stone won moments before. Jimmy “The Fixer” Kimmel closed the show by saying, “I blame Steve Harvey for this.”

If the card read “Emma Stone,” how come neither Beatty nor Dunaway realized at the time that they had the wrong envelope? And why did Stone say during her post-event press room interview that she was in possession of her envelope while they announced Best Picture? Is someone lying? Were there two cards? And how did the presenter wind up with the wrong card?

We pieced together the puzzle in real time to attempt to explain what the heck happened.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/movies/csi-oscars-decoding-what-happened-during-the-great-best-picture-gaffe-of-2017-073512426.html
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:42 am    Post subject: The Oscars Reply with quote

Well I haven't watched the Oscars since The Return of the King won a whole lot of awards and it had been a lot years before that since I watched them - in fact I have never watched a whole show of them except the Lord of the Rings year... super grin Why I watched that year i don't know either as think these shows are quite boring really....LOL

Haven't seen any of the movies mentioned and doubt whether I ever will unless they come on Free to Air TV and I have nothing better to do.... super grin
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:56 pm    Post subject: Oscars’ Middle Finger to Trumpism Reply with quote

‘Moonlight’ and the Oscars’ Middle Finger to Trumpism
Don’t let the shock over the Best Picture snafu drown out the importance of ‘Moonlight’s’ win, and the power of a terrific, political, fiercely anti-Trump Oscars telecast
Kevin Fallon
02.27.17 2:14 AM ET

Well at least we know what a peaceful transition of power can actually look like.

Typically, “Biggest Oscar Mistake Ever” is a histrionic label attached to an undeserving winner. For the first time, confusingly, it describes the film that most deserved Best Picture, the film that we needed to see recognized, and whose creators we needed to see rewarded and hear say thank you.

As Warren Beatty flusteredly returned to the stage to explain how he had incorrectly announced La La Land as the winner of Hollywood’s biggest award, ushering the movie musical’s producers off stage as the shell-shocked team from Moonlight incredulously made its way to the microphone, Twitter lit up with its cheeky 2016 election allegories.

“La La Land won the popular vote!” “I guess Moonlight remembered to campaign in Michigan.” You get the gist: all capping off an award season narrative that classified the year’s two most acclaimed films into different factions of a explosive cultural divide.

Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/27/moonlight-and-the-oscars-middle-finger-to-trumpism.html?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:58 pm    Post subject: WTF? Reply with quote

How ‘La La Land’ Was Accidentally Named Best Picture Over ‘Moonlight’ at the Oscars
What on earth just happened in the final moments of the Academy Awards?
Matt Wilstein
02.27.17 1:05 AM ET

The 89th annual Academy Awards went pretty smoothly… until everything went to hell in the final few minutes.

Fifty years after they co-starred in Bonnie and Clyde, Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway emerged after midnight to present the final award of the night, Best Picture. Beatty looked seriously confused when he opened the envelope, declining to read the winner and seemingly leaving the audience of nominees in suspense. He could faintly be heard saying the words “Emma Stone.”

When he finally handed it to Dunaway, she read the name of the film everyone was expecting to take home the biggest award of the night after winning six of its record 14 nominations earlier in the evening: La La Land.

But after the producers of that film had already delivered their heartfelt acceptance speeches, it started to seem like something was wrong. A producer in a headset was wandering around on stage literally taking the Oscars out of the supposed winners’ hands.

Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/27/how-la-la-land-was-accidentally-named-best-picture-over-moonlight-at-the-oscars.html?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:08 pm    Post subject: 'Moonlight' and 'La La Land' disrupt the status quo Reply with quote

Beyond Oscars' best picture chaos, 'Moonlight' and 'La La Land' disrupt the status quo


Los Angeles Times
Beyond Oscars' best picture chaos, 'Moonlight' and 'La La Land' disrupt the status quo
Justin Chang, Film Critic
February 27, 2016, 4:55 AM

No one who has paid attention to the Academy Awards over the past 89 years
has ever seen anything like “Moonlight’s” shocking, exhilarating,
stomach-churning come-from-behind Oscar win on Sunday night — a victory
that stunned the Dolby Theatre audience and viewers watching around the

In a rare year when everything went bizarrely haywire at the last minute,
triggering memories of Steve Harvey’s 2015 Miss Universe flub, as well
as flashbacks to the recent historic upset in the presidential election,
one statistical trend held steady: Not since Hilary Swank won the Oscar
for “Million Dollar Baby” in 2005 have the awards for lead actress and
best picture gone to the same movie.

The stage had seemed set for Emma Stone to break the trend this year as
the lead actress front-runner starring in the best picture favorite, “La
La Land.” Though some had anticipated an upset win by Isabelle Huppert
for “Elle,” Stone’s road to victory seemed clear. And indeed it was:
She won the second-to-last prize of the night handily, and everyone
assumed that her film would be honored next.

But then “Moonlight,” despite having lost the reliably predictive
Producers and Directors Guild awards to “La La Land,” pulled through
with the win — not at the last minute, but after the last minute, after
“La La Land” had already been announced as the winner. And to witness
the barrage of confusing reports on what went wrong on stage, it was,
ironically, Stone’s category that seemed to have tripped up the
proceedings. It was a duplicate of her best actress envelope that wound up
in the hands of best picture presenters Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway.

There are several possible takeaways from all this confusion, not least
the fact that Barry Jenkins’ film, despite the unfortunate circumstances
of its moment in the spotlight, strikes me as the single most deserving
best picture Oscar winner since “The Hurt Locker” and possibly “The
Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.”

Of course, “Moonlight” offers us a radically different vision of
masculinity than those two films. A gay love story of bruising tenderness
and psychological intimacy, “Moonlight” stands at a decisive remove
from the kinds of movies that the academy has until now been fairly
comfortable rewarding.

That’s why the film’s big win feels so culturally and statistically
improbable; Even without the on-stage mix-up, it would have been a shocker
for the history books. And amid all the necessary talk about improving
diversity in front of and behind the camera, its triumph stands as a
rebuke to the perception problem that the motion picture academy has often
faced in terms of which films — and by extension, which genders, races
and sexual orientations — are deemed significant enough for its highest

Movies about straight white men, including “The King’s Speech,”
“The Social Network,” “Lincoln” and “The Revenant,” don’t
usually have to work hard to be taken seriously; their dramatic
significance and mainstream appeal are assumed from the get-go.

To be fair, there have recently been several female-centric films that
fulfilled the same requirements and were duly recognized for it. Brie
Larson won the actress Oscar last year for “Room,” an intimate and
emotional two-hander that was also nominated for best picture and
director. Natalie Portman won for carrying the multi-Oscar-nominated
“Black Swan,” while Sandra Bullock took the prize for one best picture
nominee (“The Blind Side”) and was nominated for another

But for the most part, these feel like the exceptions that prove an
unfortunate rule. Not for nothing did Cate Blanchett, accepting her Oscar
for “Blue Jasmine” three years ago, rebuke “the idea that female
films with women at the center are niche experiences.” That idea still
persists. Unlike their male-dominated counterparts, films like “Blue
Jasmine,” “The Iron Lady” and “Still Alice,” to name a few
recent lead-actress Oscar winners, are still largely treated as specialty
items. They seem to have been conceived as showcases for their leading
ladies’ technical brilliance, rather than as great movies in their own

Stone’s work in “La La Land” is different. She and Gosling drew
plenty of criticism for their less-than-Juilliard-worthy singing and
dancing, but the worth of Stone’s performance isn’t predicated on
musical prowess alone. Her strengths as a performer — her sharp comic
instincts and emotional sincerity, that piercing sense that the camera is
seeing straight through to her soul — dovetail with the film’s own
melancholy virtues. She isn’t at odds with the material; she’s
beautifully in sync with it.

That Stone won for “La La Land” and Gosling didn’t is entirely
fitting; this is very much her movie, and its most affecting moments
belong to her. And that highlights still another phenomenon at work here,
one that is actually cause for optimism: 2016 was an exceptional, fiercely
competitive year for female leads, and a relatively middling one for male

Had the academy somehow not nominated Stone, Huppert, Ruth Negga, Portman
and Meryl Streep for lead actress, they could have still served up a
terrific lineup with, say, Amy Adams, Annette Bening, Rebecca Hall,
Jessica Chastain, Taraji P. Henson and many others.

There’s also the much-discussed fact that Viola Davis, the supporting
actress winner on Sunday night for “Fences,” was submitted in that
less competitive race despite playing a leading role (and she has a
lead-actress Tony for “Fences” to prove it). Had Davis, a three-time
nominee, been campaigned as a lead, her shattering turn would almost
certainly have been a threat to win — and, I suspect, she would have
ultimately done so, beating out Stone in the process.

The thorny, difficult, overbearing and extremely necessary discussion
around the Oscars and diversity will continue, and I hope the day the
academy gives best picture to a female-led film is not far away. But
Sunday night’s history-making flub aside, there should be no regret on
the members’ behalf for awarding their top prize to “Moonlight,” the
most artistically accomplished and politically resonant of the nine films

“Moonlight” doesn’t re-entrench conventional notions about
masculinity; it subverts them entirely. It’s only the second film from a
black director to win best picture, after “12 Years a Slave” (2013)
— and it will do even more than that earlier groundbreaking film to
explode the industry’s ideas of what kinds of black stories deserve to
be told, and which ones deserve to win industry prizes.

Writing about both “La La Land” and “Moonlight” a week ago, I
noted that “in the spirit of a less hostile, less Trumpian awards
season, I’d suggest that these two fine movies, far from being natural
adversaries, are in fact worthy companion pieces.”

None of us who were watching realized exactly how true that would be —
how inextricable these two movies’ fortunes would be, up until the
thrilling, devastating, you-couldn’t-have-scripted-it finale.

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