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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:47 pm    Post subject: Iraqi Heroes Left Behind By Trump's Immigration Ban Reply with quote

The Iraqi Heroes Left Behind By Trump's Immigration Ban
They risked their lives for the U.S. military and have been vetted by American intelligence agencies. Now, they're stranded in Iraq and ISIS wants their heads.
Tim Mak
01.28.17 9:01 PM ET

For interpreters who have worked with the U.S. military, the presidential order signed by Donald Trump on Friday is cruelty of the worst sort.

They served bravely to assist American military forces in Iraq, even at the risk of violence to themselves and their families. They spent years navigating a byzantine immigration process to get a visa to escape to the United States. Upon finally receiving one, many of them sold all their earthly belongings to make the journey to a new home.

Now they're left stranded in a country where their lives are threatened. After being granted hope, just as America's promises to them were to be fulfilled, their aspirations have been snatched away at the last second.

Trump’s order prohibits Iraqis and the citizens of six other predominantly Muslim countries from entering the United States. There are no exceptions: not for permanent residents, not for those with legitimate visas—not even for heroes.

While a judge issued a stay on the order on Saturday night, as of press time, it only applied to visa-holders and green-card-holders who were already in the U.S. or en route—not to those who were set to arrive later this week.

"Thanks to Mr. Trump I'm homeless," said Youssef*, a 35-year-old who began working with coalition forces in 2004. "We don't deserve to be left behind… This is not the American ethic."

After receiving a special visa designed for those who have assisted American forces in December, Youssef sold the small house he lived in with his two-year-old daughter and his wife to pay for the flight to the United States. It had taken him close to three years to receive a visa.

He was planning to fly to the U.S. on Monday.

"I sold all [that] I have to buy the ticket," he told The Daily Beast. The presidential order has left him stranded in a country where he receives regular threats from those virulently opposed to the United States. "They wrote on my door, 'traitor.'"

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The demand for help from No One Left Behind has gone through the roof since Friday afternoon.

In the first 24 hours since Trump signed the order, they have received some 250 messages from SIV applicants who have not yet made it to America.

Jason Gorey, the COO of the group, is a veteran of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan who volunteered for the Trump Inaugural Committee and assisted the Trump transition team—certainly no knee-jerk opponent of the administration.

But the order Trump signed on Friday was too indiscriminate, he says, and need an exception for those who served alongside U.S. forces.

"They have earned and deserve our protection. They are being hunted by ISIS and the Taliban for their service to America, and even a short delay in the SIV program will undoubtedly result in deaths," Gorey said. "America will be judged by how we treat and protect our interpreters and similar allies, and I am very concerned that my brothers and sisters who are involved in future conflicts will not be able to find interpreters willing to serve with and protect them if we do not fully support the SIV program."

*The names of Iraqi interpreters used in this story have been altered in order to protect their identities. As SIV holders, they have demonstrated that there is a risk to their personal safety in Iraq due to their work with the American military.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:08 pm    Post subject: Immigration Legislation Reply with quote

McCarran-Walter Act Of 1952

Wouldn't it be interesting if, someone asked, "Oh, by the way, has anyone in Washington DC ever heard of the McCarran-Walter Act Of 1952?

I did not know of this Act until recently, but it has been a law for almost 65 years.

Here are the historic facts that would seem to indicate that many, if not most, of the people we elect to work for us in Washington DC do not have the slightest idea of what laws already exist in OUR country.

After several terrorist incidents were carried out in the United States, Donald Trump was severely, criticized for suggesting that the U.S. should limit or temporarily suspend the immigration of certain ethnic groups, nationalities, and even people of certain religions (Muslims).

The criticisms condemned such a suggestion as, among other things, being Un-American, dumb, stupid, reckless, dangerous and racist.

Congressmen and Senators swore that they would never allow such legislation, and our President called such a prohibition on immigration unconstitutional.

As Gomer Pyle would say, "Well, Surprise, Surprise!" It seems that the selective immigration ban is already law and has been applied on several occasions.

Known as the McCarran-Walter Act, the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 allows for the "Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by the President, whenever the President finds that the entry of aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States.

The President may, by proclamation, and for such a period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants, or impose any restrictions on the entry of aliens he may deem to be appropriate."

Who do you suppose last used this process?

It was president Jimmy Carter, no less than 37 years ago, in 1979, to keep Iranians out of the United States.

But he actually did more. He made ALL Iranian students, already in the United States, check in with the government. And then he deported a bunch of them.

Seven thousand were found in violation of their visas, and a total of 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the USA in 1979.

So, what say you about all of the criticism that Donald Trump received from the Democrat Senators, Representatives and the Obama Administration?

Additionally, it is important to note that the McCarran-Walter Act also requires that an "applicant for immigration must be of good moral character and in agreement with the principles of our Constitution."

Therefore, one could surmise that since the Quran forbids Muslims to swear allegiance to the U.S. Constitution, technically, ALL Muslims should be refused immigration to OUR country.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:19 pm    Post subject: McCarran-Walter Act Of 1952 Reply with quote

Oh most people do know about it - They talked about it on TV today (CNN or MSNBC, can't remember which, or maybe it was both) and comparison was made with Carter's ban and the others. But none of them were couched in such sweeping, indiscriminate terms, or created such havoc among innocent people.

Please keep a sense of proportion!!!

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ALL Muslims should be refused immigration to OUR country.

Yes indeed, and let's forget those like Captain Khan who died for this country, and all the other people (interpreters, etc.) whose lives are in danger now that they can't come in after having been granted special visas. Oh so typical of self-righteous right-wing thinking. Rolling Eyes Very Mad

Anyway, here's the full text of Trump's executive order:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/text-of-trump-executive-order-nation-ban-refugees/index.html

Not issuing visas is one thing. Stopping people who already hold valid visas, let alone green cards, is something else altogether. Actually, I'm not sure it is legal to bar entry to someone who's a permanent resident. But who cares, right? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:45 pm    Post subject: Divide to rule! Reply with quote

Works every time! That's where Trump is a champion. Unify the people, no. Protect victims, no. Take in widows and orphans, no. But DIVIDE TO RULE, YES!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:07 pm    Post subject: Incompetence and Cruelty Reply with quote

I did think that the executive order was illegal and unconstitutional.

The Governor of Washington declared Donald Trump an enemy of the United States

https://youtu.be/a4J_1PtPfyM


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Divide to rule! Reply with quote

Bécassine wrote:
Works every time! That's where Trump is a champion. Unify the people, no. Protect victims, no. Take in widows and orphans, no. But DIVIDE TO RULE, YES!!

What do you mean, Bécassine? Divide who from who? confused
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Divide to rule! Reply with quote

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What do you mean, Bécassine? Divide who from who? confused

I have the feeling that Trump is trying to divide anything that can be divided: documented vs. undocumented, workers vs. retired and jobless, employers vs. employees, in a word anyone who can be set up against someone else.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Incompetence and Cruelty Reply with quote

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The Governor of Washington declared Donald Trump an enemy of the United States

Can't he be impeached and taken out of office somehow? He's wreaking terrible havoc in the country and in the world. Not even 10 days into office. Can you people stand this for four years?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:22 pm    Post subject: Moving towards tyranny Reply with quote

Trump has already taken at least two of the steps towards tyranny it seems. Censorship of environmental groups etc etc...

Notice the countries where terrorist have come from were not on the banned list because Trump and his cronies have business interests in those countries..

As someone said it is easy to sign executive orders but it won't be that easy to escape an assassins bullet. Look what happened to JFK...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:09 am    Post subject: Trump 's message on Facebook Reply with quote

Statement Regarding Recent Executive Order Concerning Extreme Vetting /

“America is a proud nation of immigrants and we will continue to show compassion to those fleeing oppression, but we will do so while protecting our own citizens and border. America has always been the land of the free and home of the brave.

We will keep it free and keep it safe, as the media knows, but refuses to say. My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror. To be clear, this is not a Muslim ban, as the media is falsely reporting.

This is not about religion - this is about terror and keeping our country safe. There are over 40 different countries worldwide that are majority Muslim that are not affected by this order. We will again be issuing visas to all countries once we are sure we have reviewed and implemented the most secure policies over the next 90 days.

I have tremendous feeling for the people involved in this horrific humanitarian crisis in Syria. My first priority will always be to protect and serve our country, but as President I will find ways to help all those who are suffering.”
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