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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:39 pm    Post subject: The right idea: Laugh about it! Reply with quote

It's what we should all do. Laugh about it. Laugthter is the best medicine.That defeats the hackers! Very Happy


Hacked trove shows Clinton aides suggesting email jokes
LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Hacked emails from the personal account of Hillary Clinton's top campaign official show her aides considered inserting jokes about her private email server into her speeches at several events — and at least one joke made it into her remarks.

"I love it," she told a dinner in Iowa on August 14, 2015, noting she had opened an online account with Snapchat, which deletes posts automatically. "Those messages disappear all by themselves."

The crack scored a laugh from the audience, but the issue was plenty serious. About a month earlier, news broke of an FBI investigation into whether some of the emails that passed through Clinton's unsecured server contained classified information. Ultimately, the agency criticized Clinton for being reckless with classified information but declined to prosecute her.

But hacked emails of John Podesta, Clinton's top campaign official, show the Democratic candidate and her team were slow to grasp the seriousness of the controversy, initially believing it might blow over after one weekend. It did not, and became the most recent example of a penchant for secrecy that has fueled questions about Clinton's trustworthiness, which she has acknowledged has been a political challenge.

The joke was included in hacked emails WikiLeaks began releasing earlier this month, saying they included years of messages from accounts used by Podesta. Podesta warned that messages may have been altered or edited to inflict political damage, but has not pointed to any specifics.

Almost from the moment The Associated Press on March 3, 2015, called the campaign for comment on its breaking story that Clinton had been running a private server to five months later, campaign aides sought venues on Clinton's schedule where she could show some humor over the issue, according to the hacked emails.

In a series of emails on March 3, 2015 — the same day The Associated Press called for comment — staffers tossed around the idea of making jokes about the emails at a dinner hosted by EMILY's List, a political action committee, that evening.

"I wanted to float idea of HRC making a joke about the email situation at the EMILY's List dinner tonight," Jennifer Palmieri, director of communications for Clinton's campaign, wrote at 2:37 p.m., using the candidate's initials. "What do folks think about that?"

The idea got a mostly favorable response at first. "I don't think it's nuts if we can come up with the right thing. But it could also be nuts," replied campaign spokesman Nick Merrill a couple of minutes later.

"I think it would be good for her to show some humor," added Kristina Schake, now a deputy communications director. "...More jokes are welcome too."

But political consultant Mandy Grunwald nixed the idea after speaking with Jim Margolis, a media adviser to the campaign.

"We don't know what's in the emails, so we are nervous about this," Grunwald wrote to Merrill and Schake at 6:09 p.m. that night. "Might get a big laugh tonight and regret it when content of emails is disclosed."

Clinton's campaign aides also considered using Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe's 2015 appearance at the Gridiron Dinner, an annual Washington joke-fest involving journalists and politicians, to try and defuse the email issue. McAuliffe is a longtime confidante of and fundraiser for Clinton, and was chairman of her unsuccessful 2008 presidential bid.

"Anyway what do we think about using gridiron to puncture the email story a little," wrote Palmieri, who suggested possible joke topics, including one involving Jeb Bush.

Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook expressed concern, saying reinforcing the idea that Clinton and McAuliffe are close "conjures the 90s stuff" — a reference, to Bill Clinton's two turbulent terms in office. McAuliffe's routine at the Gridiron did not ultimately include the discussed email routine.

Five months later, Hillary Clinton's director of speechwriting, Dan Schwerin, shared a draft of a speech for the annual Iowa Wing Ding dinner in an email to colleagues, asking for input.

"I look forward to your feedback. (Also, if anyone has a funny email/server joke, please send it my way.)," he wrote on August 13.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:58 pm    Post subject: John Oliver calls out Weiner over Hillary's emails Reply with quote


John Oliver Calls Out Pervert Anthony Weiner Over Hillary’s Emails
The ‘Last Week Tonight’ host is, like all of us, exhausted by the insanity of this presidential election.
Marlow Stern

John Oliver has a complicated relationship with election season. Back in 2008, while working as a correspondent for The Daily Show, the British comedian was on the run from security at the Republican National Convention when he happened upon a group of military veterans. One of the vets, U.S. Army combat medic Kate Norley, helped shield Oliver from his convention foes. They began exchanging texts, and three years later were pronounced husband and wife.

That was then. The 2016 presidential election season, on the other hand, has been a nightmare for all of us—including Oliver. Sure, he took home a much-deserved Emmy for Outstanding Variety Series, officially positioning him as the heir apparent to Jon Stewart, but he’s also offered up that very Emmy Award to Donald Trump if the former reality-TV show host, who never won the Emmy for his outrageous competition series The Apprentice, agrees to deliver a concession speech should he lose in the general.

“We did not want to talk about the election at all this week. We so wanted to give everyone a break,” said an emotionally drained Oliver during Sunday’s edition of Last Week Tonight.

And so, with a “a heavy heart,” Oliver addressed the recent fracas over Hillary Clinton’s Emailgate—including the vague letter FBI Director James Comey sent out Friday informing Congress that the bureau would be examining thousands of emails that may be connected to Clinton’s case, and subsequent news reports confirming the emails came from disgraced ex-Congressman Anthony Weiner’s computer (Weiner was married to longtime—and long-suffering—Clinton aide Huma Abedin), stemming from a separate investigation into Weiner’s alleged sexting with a 15-year-old girl.

It seems Anthony Weiner is forcing the nation to relitigate the entire email controversy, and putting Hillary Clinton’s chances of winning the presidency in serious danger—Carlos Danger,” joked Oliver.

He continued: “Perhaps the most frustrating thing about all of this is that we don’t know yet whether this is a huge problem or whether it’s barely a problem at all, because FBI Director James Comey pointed out in his letter to Congress that ‘the FBI cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant,’ and sources have since dampened expectations of what might emerge.”

Indeed, news reports have emerged suggesting that Hillary Clinton is not implicated in any of the emails and that she did not send them (if you recall, FBI Director Comey all but closed the Clinton email case nearly four months ago, stating in a bizarre press conference that “no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case”). As for the new development, quoting an FBI official close to the investigation, the Los Angeles Times reported “the emails were not to or from Clinton, and contained information that appeared to be more of what agents had already uncovered… but in an abundance of caution, they felt they needed to further scrutinize them.”

“OK, so nine days out from the election, the FBI has basically delivered us the equivalent of a mystery box. And like the box from the end of Se7en, it could contain anything from nothing to Gwyneth Paltrow’s head—although it almost definitely contains Anthony Weiner’s penis,” quipped Oliver. “And the chances of getting this resolved before the election seem slim.”

Since there are thousands of emails to examine, there is no way in hell that the latest chapter in the neverending Emailgate saga will be closed by Election Day.

“So, to recap: The grinding hell of this election has thrown in yet another twist—with the election hanging in the balance—all thanks to the fact that Anthony Weiner allegedly sexted with a 15-year-old girl,” exclaimed Oliver. “We have burrowed through not just rock bottom, but through the core of the earth. And we’ve come bursting out the other side, startling kangaroos, and we’re currently hurtling toward outer space where there is no up, down, light, or darkness—just an endless void in which death comes as sweet, sweet relief. Please let this thing be over soon!”


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:10 pm    Post subject: Russia...... Reply with quote

These emails weren't hacked by Russia, an improvement of sorts... Smile

They are from New York City.... Crying or Very sad

And they were not hacked... They were saved.... Smile

If there was no Wikileaks, this would be a real nuclear explosion. Eek
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Russia...... Reply with quote

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If there was no Wikileaks, this would be a real nuclear explosion. Eek

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:33 am    Post subject: Is the FBI Also Investigating Trump's Possible Ties/Hackers? Reply with quote


Is the FBI Also Investigating Donald Trump and Possible Ties to Russian Hackers?
Lindsay Kimble, People

In a heated letter to James Comey released Sunday, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid charged that the FBI director is withholding “explosive” information about GOP nominee Donald Trump‘s ties to Russia.

Reid, 76, specifically claimed that he learned — in a conversation with Comey and “other top officials in the national security community” — of the “coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors and the Russian government.”

Reid’s letter was sent to chide Republican Comey’s recent public announcement that the FBI is taking additional “investigative steps” into Hillary Clinton‘s use of a private email server during her time as secretary of state — news revealed just 11 days before Election Day. Reid said that Comey’s investigation into Clinton, but not Trump, shows “a disturbing double standard.”

But what is the “explosive” evidence against Trump — if any?

The FBI could not immediately be reached for comment on whether such an investigation exists, and Reid’s office did not immediately return PEOPLE’s request for additional comment — although spokesman Adam Jentleson pointed to classified briefings as evidence.

Jentleson told The Washington Post, “There have been classified briefings on this topic. That is all I can say.”

Trump has been linked to the country before, especially following the recent email hacks of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta. The U.S. government has officially accused Russia of orchestrating the cyber attacks in an effort to influence the presidential election.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:25 am    Post subject: Excellent parallel for the situation Comey created Reply with quote

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4. In Clinton's initial email case the FBI did not even believe there was enough evidence to submit it to the prosecutors, let alone to a grand jury. Let me draw a parallel. Imagine you are school teacher, and a student accuses you of sexual contact. The police investigate and decide there is not enough evidence to proceed. Instead of dropping it and letting you go on with your life, the police chief holds a press conference and says you wore short skirts and were careless about crossing your legs at your desk. Hope your contract isn't coming up.

5. Let me try to continue this parallel (although there is really not any, given the stakes here.) Let's say your husband gets busted for selling cocaine. The police reasonably seize his phone to see if there are messages related to dealing and get a warrant to check for incriminating evidence. On his phone they find a folder titled "Pictures of My Wife." No judge would give the police a warrant based on probable cause to search that file for evidence of your husband's drug dealing. So instead the police chief calls your principal and says "We found there are some pictures that might pertain to those earlier accusations about your teacher's legs, but we can't tell you if they do because we're not supposed to look at them. Hope this helps you to decide whether to renew her contract.”

6. You're f*cked. You can insist that the police show all the photos of you and your husband at your child's 1st birthday to the principal, but the chief can refuse because there's no warrant and the evidence hasn't gone through grand Jury, much less actual trial.

7. This is where James Comey has put Hillary Clinton [... ] this is exactly how an election is rigged.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:07 am    Post subject: We’ve come a not-very-long way, Hillary! Reply with quote


Hillary Haunted By Big, Stupid Weiners
Two weeks out from a potentially historic election, we’re not talking about the female candidate’s credentials. All we’re talking about is sexually misbehaving men.
Erin Gloria Ryan

In the book of Genesis, Eve is the first to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Her hapless husband, Adam, has no choice but to obey the whims of his wife; once they’ve both tasted of the forbidden fruit, both realize they’re naked, and God, his divine feelings extremely hurt, casts them out of Paradise. This marks the beginning of one of humanity’s oldest traditions: men’s dicks getting them in huge, stupid trouble.

A lot has happened between the commission of original sin and the year 2016—pyramids, cars, Dippin’ Dots—and America, the country people who know nothing about Ancient Rome would declare the greatest civilization in the history of mankind, is finally poised to elect its first female president. At least, it would be if not for man’s indomitable desire to take his dick out and wave it around at women.

While Hillary Clinton has done plenty on her own to endanger her chances at winning the presidency, in the waning weeks of the 2016 campaign, her personal shortcomings aren’t dominating public discourse. Instead, men who don’t know how to properly manage their sexual whims are dominating public discourse.

Donald Trump’s sexual habits have monopolized the front page and the national imagination after video surfaced wherein he bragged to Billy Bush about grabbing women “by the pussy.” Women began coming forward to corroborate Trump’s claim that his undersized hands have an oversized inclination to grope, and Trump fired back by bringing up the alleged sexual impropriety of Hillary’s husband, Bill. During the fallout from Pussygate, Trump-sympathetic website Breitbart even ran an interview with a woman who alleges she was sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton in 1980. It was among the first times that Breitbart’s knee-jerk reaction to a story of sexual assault wasn’t cruel incredulity. Trump is rubber, you see, and Bill is glue, and everything that Trump did bounces off Trump and sticks on Bill. Belief for me, and not for thee.

It seemed Hillary Clinton had fought her way through all that, through her husband’s philandering and its decades-later fallout. It seemed as though she’d played through all of the circles of hell and won. There was more in store for her. If you thought the pussy phase of this gutter election was arduous, buckle up. The dick phase is just beginning.

Today, FBI director James Comey announced in a letter to the House Judiciary Committee that new emails pertinent to the Hillary Clinton email investigation had surfaced that warranted additional scrutiny by the FBI. The FBI discovered those emails during the course of their investigation into Anthony Weiner (estranged husband of top Hillary Clinton advisor Huma Abedin), who earlier this year was busted exchanging sexually charged messages with a 15-year-old girl over various social media apps. The current investigation is looking into whether or not the former New York City congressman-cum-mayoral candidate-cum-tragic documentary star actually endangered a child in the pursuit of what seems a uniquely technologically-enabled sexual kink.

Anthony Weiner’s sexting scandals have kneecapped his own professional trajectory; so much so that they even have their own Wikipedia page. In 2011, he dicked his way out of a promising congressional career, resigning after an errant Twitter direct message turned out to lead to an active side career as a virtual cheater. In 2013, he torpedoed a real shot at winning the New York City mayoral race after it turns out that he was still at it. He was still at it in 2015, at one point sending a photo of his downstairs bulge while his small child napped in bed beside him. But the feds got involved earlier this year, when texts surfaced indicating he’d been sexting a 15-year-old girl.

And now here we are. Weiner’s role in complicating the final days of Clinton’s campaign feels particularly unfair. While one could feasibly make the argument that her interactions with Bill Clinton’s accusers make their cases germane to the 2016 election, Hillary Clinton never had the same interaction with Weiner’s victims, or Weiner’s life. She never directly employed Anthony Weiner; she employed his wife.

The FBI isn’t technically “reopening” the Clinton email probe, nor are any of the emails unearthed while looking into Weiner from Clinton, or even hidden from investigators by Clinton. But Team Trump has their talking point now, that Hillary Clinton’s email saga is ongoing and untenable, and it’s all thanks to Anthony Weiner’s inability to resist temptation or stay away from technology. This is the third round of Weiner sexting allegations, and the fourth time his wagging junk has humiliated him, his family, and those associated with his family. We’ll likely never know what sort of fruit got Adam and Eve cast from the garden, but we know today’s male sinners are partial to Apple. And Blackberry.

Anthony Weiner’s inability to resist the temptation to snap photos of his junk has made its way from the halls of Congress to Gracie Mansion. And now, like a snake through tree branches, Weiner is rearing its head in the White House.

This should be a historic moment for women in America. This should be a sprint to the finish for two qualified and viable candidates for the highest office in the most powerful country in the world.

But, with a scant 11 days to go, even a campaign that’s half-woman has turned into another dick-measuring contest.

We’ve come a not-very-long way, baby.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:38 am    Post subject: Anthony Weiner's Penis takes the limelight :D Reply with quote

Anthony Weiner's Penis Might Destroy Two Political Careers

This is not really terribly funny, but it's sort of complements Angelina's post above.


Ditto here:

John Oliver: Anthony Weiner’s Penis Just Put Hillary Clinton’s White House Bid In Peril


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:11 am    Post subject: Hillary Clinton's Emails, Explained Reply with quote

This is a pretty good summary of the whole mess:


Hillary Clinton's Emails, Explained
Michael Sebastian, Cosmopolitan

The political world convulsed on Friday. Seemingly out of nowhere, the FBI lurched into the 2016 presidential election, a truly historic development that dragged Hillary Clinton’s emails - not to mention Anthony Weiner - firmly into the spotlight with less than two weeks to go until Election Day. So what does it all mean? Here’s what you need to know.

So what exactly happened on Friday?

James Comey, the director of the FBI, sent a vaguely worded letter to Congress, saying the bureau had discovered information related to its previous investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state. The information, according to Comey’s letter, came from a separate investigation.

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Let’s back up for a moment. What’s the deal with Clinton’s emails?

Shortly before Clinton became secretary of state in 2009, she set up a private email server in her home. She also created accounts on that server for her close aides, including Huma Abedin.

Her use of this private email server fell into a “grey area," according to the BBC, because the State Department enacted new rules after she became secretary of state saying government employees can use private email only if federal records were preserved. Basically, if Clinton is discussing plans for her granddaughter’s birthday party, the government doesn’t need to know about it. If, however, she’s discussing a diplomatic mission to China on that server, then those records need to be kept.

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Why is the FBI involved?

The FBI conducted a separate investigation over whether Clinton and her aides mishandled information related to national security, according to the New York Times. In other words, was any of the information in those emails classified, and, if so, did Clinton knowingly send and receive it on her private email server? Federal law makes it a crime to "knowingly remove" documents or materials containing classified information and store them, without permission at an "unauthorized location," the Times reports.

On July 5, Comey said the FBI had wrapped up its investigation and found that “there is evidence of potential violations” related to classified information, but “no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case," according to the BBC. The FBI recommended no charges be brought against Clinton and her staff, referring the matter to the Justice Department, which said it would go along with the FBI’s recommendation. Justice then closed the case.

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What about the deleted emails Trump is always talking about?

A constant line of attack from Trump has been the 30,000 or so emails Clinton deleted. "Why did she delete 33,000 emails?" he asked during their first debate. Earlier, he called on Russian hackers to find those emails.

Here’s the backstory.

When Clinton handed over her emails to the State Department for review, according to ABC News, her staff found that there were about 60,000 left on her private server. Clinton told her staff to determine which were work related and which were personal. They decided about half were personal and deleted them.

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In his testimony before Congress in July, Comey stressed that the FBI "didn’t find any evidence of evil intent and intent to obstruct justice."

Now, back to Friday’s bombshell - and the connection to Anthony Weiner.

Shortly after Comey’s letter became public on Friday, news reports emerged saying the unrelated investigation that turned up the Clinton emails involved disgraced New York congressman Anthony Weiner. He is married to Clinton’s close aide Huma Abedin, although the two are currently estranged.

The FBI is investigating whether Weiner sent and received sexually explicit text messages with a North Carolina teenager. On October 3, agents seized Weiner’s electronic devices, including a laptop he shares with Abedin. While searching the laptop, agents discovered emails “similar to the ones that had been examined in the Clinton investigation,” according to the New York Times.

Last week, Comey decided the FBI should look at those emails to determine whether they contain classified information. But the FBI doesn’t know what is actually in those emails because, on Friday, it hadn’t yet looked at them. It’s highly unlikely the review of the newly discovered information will conclude by Election Day, according to CNN.

The FBI getting involved like this, at this time, is a really big deal.

The Justice Department learned last Thursday that Comey planned to send the letter to Congress, and it urged him to stay silent, according to the Washington Post. Officials at the Justice Department “reminded the FBI of the department’s policy to not comment on ongoing investigations and to not take steps that could be viewed as influencing an election,” the Post reported. But Comey went ahead anyway.

The letter has exposed a deep divide at the FBI, according to The Wall Street Journal, with some staff questioning why Comey - a Republican, according the Washington Post - would get involved in a U.S. election.

What’s the reaction?

Donald Trump, who had previously criticized the FBI for its handling of the Clinton investigation, praised the letter, saying on Friday that he has “great respect for the fact that the FBI and the Department of Justice are now willing to have the courage to right the horrible mistake that they made,” according to ABC News.

Clinton, meanwhile, called on the FBI to release as much information as possible about the newly discovered information. She also criticized Comey’s decision to send the letter. “It’s pretty strange to put something like that out with such little information right before an election,” Mrs. Clinton said at a rally over the weekend. “In fact, it’s not just strange; it’s unprecedented and it is deeply troubling.”

Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat from Nevada, suggested Comey violated federal law by getting involved in a U.S. election. And former Attorney General Eric Holder, who served under President Obama, said in a Washington Post op-ed Monday that he was "deeply concerned" by Comey’s decision. "That decision was incorrect," he wrote. "It violated long-standing Justice Department policies and tradition."

But it’s not an entirely partisan fight. One of Clinton’s staunchest critics, former Republican congressman Joe Walsh, even took her side in the debate, tweeting:

Look, I think Comey should have said prosecute her back in July.

But what he just did 11 days b4 the election is wrong & unfair to Hillary.

How will this affect the election?

It’s unclear. Polling over the weekend showed it had no effect, with Clinton maintaining a slim 3 percent point lead over Trump nationally. But, as the New York Times points out, weekend polls are not always reliable.

One thing to note: Millions of people have already voted in crucial battleground states like Florida, Colorado, and Nevada. And, considering how long this election has gone on, millions more have already decided how they’ll vote on Nov. 8.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:40 am    Post subject: L. A Times Reply with quote

Los Angeles Times Poll:

Trump. 47.6%
Clinton. 42.?%

This poll leans to Trump compared to others, but jumped four points. Let's see what others say before we take it seriously.
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