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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:06 pm    Post subject: Hillary's emails - Double standards Reply with quote

Admin's note: I split this post from the "earpiece" thread.

This comment probably belongs in another thread.... but..... Crying or Very sad
Not any more it doesn't. super grin

What the heck is the FBI doing releasing emails in the investigation pertaining to Hillary and her staff.....Question

No one is going to prosecute her.... as per the FBI.... The emails are "cherry picked" by some invisible agents somewhere in the FBI. Eek

She can't defend herself as she could in a court hearing.... Question

The agents are doing the "drip water torture" by doing a few at a time..... Surprised

Well, we know Hillary is going to be damaged, that is easy to figure out.... But figure this out...Who is doing this Question

This is a big example of.... Unfair uhh!

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New Admin's Note: I edited the title because of the article on Petraeus' emails that Inkpot posted today, 29 November. See
http://www.avenueviet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=71028#71028
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Petraeus could have a tough road if the Twitter feed of his chief strategist, Doug Stafford, is anything to go by. He tweeted: "Hillary does it -- 'Lock her up.' Gen Petraeus does it -- CABINET POST! No."

Talk about unfair!

Edited by Administrator on 29 November 2016 at 20:14 EST
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:04 pm    Post subject: Washington Post editorial: Enough already! Reply with quote

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-hillary-clinton-email-story-is-out-of-control/2016/09/08/692947d0-75fc-11e6-8149-b8d05321db62_story.html?utm_term=.e025a4cec1da

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The Hillary Clinton email story is out of control
By Editorial Board September 8 at 9:26 PM

JUDGING BY the amount of time NBC’s Matt Lauer spent pressing Hillary Clinton on her emails during Wednesday’s national security presidential forum, one would think that her homebrew server was one of the most important issues facing the country this election. It is not. There are a thousand other substantive issues — from China’s aggressive moves in the South China Sea to National Security Agency intelligence-gathering to military spending — that would have revealed more about what the candidates know and how they would govern. Instead, these did not even get mentioned in the first of 5½ precious prime-time hours the two candidates will share before Election Day, while emails took up a third of Ms. Clinton’s time.

Sadly, Mr. Lauer’s widely panned handling of the candidate forum was not an aberration. Judging by polls showing that voters trust Mr. Trump more than Ms. Clinton, as well as other evidence, it reflects a common shorthand for this election articulated by NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick last week: “You have Donald Trump, who’s openly racist,” he said. Then, of Ms. Clinton: “I mean, we have a presidential candidate who’s deleted emails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate. That doesn’t make sense to me, because if that was any other person, you’d be in prison.”

In fact, Ms. Clinton’s emails have endured much more scrutiny than an ordinary person’s would have, and the criminal case against her was so thin that charging her would have been to treat her very differently. Ironically, even as the email issue consumed so much precious airtime, several pieces of news reported Wednesday should have taken some steam out of the story. First is a memo FBI Director James B. Comey sent to his staff explaining that the decision not to recommend charging Ms. Clinton was “not a cliff-hanger” and that people “chest-beating” and second-guessing the FBI do not know what they are talking about. Anyone who claims that Ms. Clinton should be in prison accuses, without evidence, the FBI of corruption or flagrant incompetence.

Second is the emergence of an email exchange between Ms. Clinton and former secretary of state Colin Powell in which he explained that he used a private computer and bypassed State Department servers while he ran the agency, even when communicating with foreign leaders and top officials. Mr. Powell attempted last month to distance himself from Ms. Clinton’s practices, which is one of the many factors that made the email story look worse. Now, it seems, Mr. Powell engaged in similar behavior.

Last is a finding that 30 Benghazi-related emails that were recovered during the FBI email investigation and recently attracted big headlines had nothing significant in them. Only one, in fact, was previously undisclosed, and it contained nothing but a compliment from a diplomat. But the damage of the “30 deleted Benghazi emails” story has already been done.

Ms. Clinton is hardly blameless. She treated the public’s interest in sound record-keeping cavalierly. A small amount of classified material also moved across her private server. But it was not obviously marked as such, and there is still no evidence that national security was harmed. Ms. Clinton has also admitted that using the personal server was a mistake. The story has vastly exceeded the boundaries of the facts.

Imagine how history would judge today’s Americans if, looking back at this election, the record showed that voters empowered a dangerous man because of . . . a minor email scandal. There is no equivalence between Ms. Clinton’s wrongs and Mr. Trump’s manifest unfitness for office.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:07 pm    Post subject: Being carelessness is not a crime Reply with quote

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/clinton-was-extremely-careless-that-is-not-a-crime-but-she-must-do-better-in-the-future/2016/07/05/d85ba064-42d8-11e6-8856-f26de2537a9d_story.html?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.c320fd3ba10f

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Clinton was ‘extremely careless.’ That is not a crime, but she must do better in the future.
By Editorial Board

FIRST, A shout-out to the investigator: In examining the use of a private email server for official business by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, FBI Director James B. Comey appears to have navigated treacherous waters with the commitment to principle and rule of law that any citizen could wish for. The FBI investigated thoroughly. It came to its conclusion in time for voters to factor it into their deliberations. Mr. Comey leveled with the American people, reporting to them even before reporting to his own bosses.

And the conclusion he came to strikes us as being as sound as the process: Ms. Clinton was “extremely careless,” the FBI director said, but did not engage in the kind of intentional or willful mishandling of classified material that would warrant prosecution.

The director left no doubt of his belief that Ms. Clinton’s use of a private email server was entirely inappropriate for a Cabinet member with access to the nation’s highest-level secrets. Mr. Comey said “any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position . . . should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation.” The Clinton system had virtually no archiving; when servers were swapped out in 2013, “millions of email fragments” wound up being inadvertently tossed into the “slack space” of a decommissioned server. Much will be made by Ms. Clinton’s critics of the finding that eight chains of “top secret” emails were found, as well as several dozen chains of emails at lesser levels of classification; and that work emails were missed by her lawyers in their sorting from the personal; and that thousands of other emails were dislodged by investigators from other people’s accounts.

No doubt an FBI investigation of equal intensity would find carelessness on the part of many other high-ranking officials. But that does not excuse Ms. Clinton’s blithe disregard for procedure. The FBI found no “direct evidence” that Ms. Clinton’s email was hacked by foreign adversaries, Mr. Comey said. But it is worrisome that the FBI believes “hostile actors gained access” to private, commercial email accounts of her interlocutors, and that it is “possible” her emails also fell into hostile hands. China’s and Russia’s known, aggressive cybersnooping may have reaped a rich harvest.

Carelessness, however, is not a crime. Mr. Comey said there is no precedent, in his view, that would justify prosecution in this case. Once questions were raised, Ms. Clinton turned over some 30,000 emails — in the aggregate, probably more email than any of her predecessors preserved.

From what’s come to light, it seems clear Ms. Clinton and her aides used the private email server to preserve control over her messages, neglecting their responsibility as public servants to follow procedures for protecting classified information. Rather than toss off this experience with a back of the hand, Ms. Clinton needs to learn from it and find a way to show voters that she has better judgment than the combination of high-handedness and defensiveness she has displayed here.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:14 pm    Post subject: There are more important issues in the world! Reply with quote

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/09/washington-post-stop-talking-hillary-clintons-emails/

Washington Post: Stop talking about Hillary Clinton’s emails
posted at 1:21 pm on September 9, 2016 by John Sexton

The Washington Post’s editorial board says it’s time for the media to stop talking about Hillary Clinton’s emails and start talking about more important things, like her canned talking points. Here’s the opening of the editorial that appears in Friday’s paper under the headline “The Hillary Clinton email story is out of control.”

    Judging by the amount of time NBC’s Matt Lauer spent pressing Hillary Clinton on her emails during Wednesday’s national security presidential forum, one would think that her homebrew server was one of the most important issues facing the country this election. It is not. There are a thousand other substantive issues — from China’s aggressive moves in the South China Sea to National Security Agency intelligence-gathering to military spending — that would have revealed more about what the candidates know and how they would govern. Instead, these did not even get mentioned in the first of 5½ precious prime-time hours the two candidates will share before Election Day, while emails took up a third of Ms. Clinton’s time.

So the Post’s take is that it’s a waste of time talking about her email when there are important issues like China’s behavior in the South China Sea to discuss. This is such an important issue that it barely rates a mention under the National Security tab of Clinton’s website:

    Hillary will work with allies to promote strong rules of the road and institutions in Asia, and press China to play by the rules—including in cyberspace, on currency, human rights, trade, territorial disputes, and climate change—and hold it accountable if it does not, while working with China where it is in our interest.

But if you’re wondering what she would have said had she been asked, it probably would have sounded like this:

[Video at link]

Not enough? You can see her making almost the same statement in this AP clip. Do you feel like you know more about her now? Can you judge her fitness for office based on her ability to recite a statement about a topic most American know nothing about? Probably not.

There are certainly more important issues in the world than Hillary Clinton’s email server but few are as revealing of her core personality. Her statement on the South China Sea will have been massaged and considered by a team of subject matter experts. It will change as the circumstances change. But the email story is pure, undiluted Hillary. It doesn’t just tell us what she can remember about various topics, it tells us who she is.

And what the email story tells us is that Hillary is both secretive and dishonest. Just look at the number of lies she has told about this topic over the past year. Many of them (but not all) have been pointed out by the Washington Post itself. Read through a few of those fact checks. Do you feel like you know more about Hillary Clinton and how she operates now? You should and it should worry you.

Here’s the bottom line: If you want to know what a Hillary Clinton presidency will really look like you won’t find that on her website or in her recitation of canned talking points about important topics. On the other hand, a close look at the email story is very revealing. In the long run, her character is going to matter more than her ability to state positions.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:23 pm    Post subject: Spin machine, ACTIVATE! Reply with quote

Spin machine, ACTIVATE! WaPo editorial board blasted for dismissing Hillary’s ‘minor email scandal’
Posted at 9:36 am on September 9, 2016 by Doug P.

Read the comments: http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2016/09/09/spin-machine-activate-wapo-editorial-board-blasted-for-dismissing-hillarys-minor-email-scandal/
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Spin machine, ACTIVATE! Reply with quote

dzu wrote:
Spin machine, ACTIVATE! WaPo editorial board blasted for dismissing Hillary’s ‘minor email scandal’

The Reps are not letting the story die down, that's for sure. We can count on UnMask to keep it going. Through a dozen different threads... On none of which there ever is any answer about Bush's deleted emails (question asked by Inkling - I confess that I'm not sure what that was about myself... Don't remember having heard of it before.)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:23 pm    Post subject: Republican emails Reply with quote

I didn't know about them, but two systems apparently. One government, one Republican National Committee.

Nothing about an illegal server or unprotected system. Probably some business on wrong system though...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:31 pm    Post subject: Wikileaks Reply with quote

I read the latest Wikileaks report in the morning when I get up. Maybe I look at ten each day.

Almost all are really boring, but I did read the originals where they dissed Christians.

Go to Wikileaks.org, then the Podesta section and just hit search if you have nothing specific to look for. Today I think they unloaded 800-900 or so... #9 release.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Wikileaks Reply with quote

UnMask wrote:
Go to Wikileaks.org, then the Podesta section and just hit search if you have nothing specific to look for. Today I think they unloaded 800-900 or so... #9 release.

I'll do that in lieu of a sleeping pill if I have trouble sleping! It's so boring! sleep
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:37 pm    Post subject: Email case against Hillary 'complete garbage' Reply with quote

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I wonder what Unmask and Angela would have to say about this?

http://www.bluedotdaily.com/george-w-bush-just-proved-republicans-email-case-against-hillary-is-complete-garbage/

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For 18 months, Republican strategists, political pundits, reporters and Americans who follow them have been pursuing Hillary Clinton’s personal email habits, and no evidence of a crime has been found. But now they at least have the skills and interest to focus on a much larger and deeper email conspiracy, one involving war, lies, a private server run by the Republican Party and contempt of Congress citations—all of it still unsolved and unpunished.

Clinton’s email habits look positively transparent when compared with the subpoena-dodging, email-hiding, private-server-using George W. Bush administration. Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House “lost” 22 million emails. This correspondence included millions of emails written during the darkest period in America’s recent history, when the Bush administration was ginning up support for what turned out to be a disastrous war in Iraq with false claims that the country possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and, later, when it was firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons.

The Bush White House, like Clinton, used a private email server, owned by the Republican National Convention. “It’s about as amazing a double standard as you can get,” says Eric Boehlert, who works with the pro-Clinton group Media Matters. “If you look at the Bush emails, he was a sitting president, and 95 percent of his chief advisers’ emails were on a private email system set up by the RNC. Imagine if for the last year and a half we had been talking about Hillary Clinton’s emails set up on a private DNC server?”
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In 2008, the Bush administration admitted it had lost 22 million emails. That’s right, 22 million.
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