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Hillary Clinton and Trump - The Last Stretch & Beyond
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:55 pm    Post subject: Hillary Clinton and Trump - The Last Stretch & Beyond Reply with quote

Confident Clinton Taunts ‘Little’ Trump
The Democratic nominee set out to prove she is ready for her first state of the union address while childish Trump is busy lashing out on Twitter.


Hillary Clinton comes across as a self-confident leader, a woman with the knowledge, the stature, and the demeanor to command the greatest military in the world. After four days of Democrats—and some Republicans, too—extolling the historic nature of a woman receiving a major party nomination, Clinton was well into her acceptance speech before she acknowledged the milestone.

“I’m standing here as my mother’s daughter, and my daughter’s mother. I’m happy this day has come—and I’m happy for boys and men because the time any barrier falls in America, it falls for everyone.”

And then she moved on.

Becoming the first woman president is not what will get her elected. Nor will more stories that make her seem warm and fuzzy. She did a minimum of that in her much anticipated speech. She didn’t need to go over the case other people have made for her as a many-faceted person, a whole person, a good friend, someone who cares about children, someone who does the right thing when no one’s looking.

She touched on the professional points in her life that connect with who she is now, and why she got into public service. “The service part always comes easier to me than the public part,” she said. The polls and the focus groups and the experts find that voters view Clinton as untrustworthy, someone who craves power, who got where she is because of her husband. “I get it. Some people just don’t know what to make of me,” she said, offering a testimonial to her parents and their values, and her Methodist faith as her bedrock.

Her mother is her lodestar, who first taught her that bullies must be stood up against, and that “no one gets through life alone.” Twenty years ago, Clinton recalled in the book she wrote, It Takes a Village, all the resources in addition to the nuclear family that it takes to successfully raise children. Republicans at the time saw it as an assault on family values, but the phrase undergirds Clinton’s campaign slogan, “Stronger Together.”

She learned early in her Methodist upbringing, “Do all the good you can in all the ways you can for as long as you can.” Clinton is a striver, and that’s a core value she brings to whatever she undertakes. She also learned early when she worked to gain accessibility to school for disabled children that “Simply caring is not enough to drive real progress, you have to change hearts and laws.”

We don’t know if Clinton is elected that she would govern differently because of her gender. We do know that women leaders do tend to be more inclusive, and that Clinton would be inheriting a country that is more divided now than it was eight years ago when Barack Obama came to the White House promising he would bring the country together.

We also know that another signature Clinton characteristic is her resilience, how she picked herself up after losing the health care fight in 1994, how she reclaimed her marriage in the wake of scandal, and how she became a trusted partner of the man who defeated her in 2008.

Her speech was more workmanlike than inspirational, a toting up of what needs to be done, more like a president delivering a state of the union address than a politician serving up red meat for the faithful. This is who she is. Voters looking for authenticity can find it in the many battles she has fought, and in the countless people she has helped without getting or expecting publicity.

Delegates chanting “U.S.A.,” victims of the 9/11 attacks highlighted, the families of murdered cops taking the stage—it seemed like back to the future as Democrats appropriated the symbols that Republicans once owned.

Girl power took a back seat by the time Clinton spoke. The ascendancy of women in the Democratic Party and the country is now so obvious that it didn’t need more showcasing. Clinton knows that the road to the White House must include independents and Republicans, and that Donald Trump’s candidacy has opened that possibility. Thursday night, as she stood on that sky blue stage in her pearl white pantsuit, you could imagine her in the ring with Trump.

For a woman caricatured as humorless, she showed a light touch, noting Trump doesn’t talk about his plans because he doesn’t have any while, “In case you haven’t noticed, I love to talk about mine.” She also knows how to get under Trump’s skin, quoting Jackie Kennedy after the Cuban missile crisis saying that her husband feared a war might be started “not by big men… but by little men moved by fear and pride.”

“A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons,” Clinton said.

Clinton showed in her speech such an easy comfort level with all the aspects of leadership that the presidency requires that it’s puzzling why it took so long for a woman to break through, and that it isn’t just any woman, it’s the wife of a former president. That’s not something we’re likely to ever see again.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:57 pm    Post subject: Trump Team: Hil Spoke From ‘Fantasy Universe’ Reply with quote


Trump Team: Hil Spoke From ‘Fantasy Universe’

Donald Trump’s campaign shot back at Hillary Clinton’s historic DNC speech on Thursday night, calling it an “insulting collection of clichés and recycled rhetoric.” Stephen Miller, Trump’s Senior Policy Advisor, said it was “delivered from a fantasy universe.” He added, “She spent the evening talking down to the American people she’s looked down on her whole life.” Clinton, the first female major party nominee for president in the history of the United States, said about Trump: “A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons.” Still, Thursday evening, Trump took to Twitter to slam Clinton and her speech, writing, “Hillary’s vision is a borderless world where working people have no power, no jobs, no safety,” and “No one has worse judgement than Hillary Clinton—corruption and devastation follows her wherever she goes.”
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:12 pm    Post subject: Rather feeble... Reply with quote

The Trump campaign's response is rather feeble. I guess they couldn't find any better comeback to Hillary's speech and are maybe trying to indulge in their usual foul-mouth, low-hitting, irrelevant attacks.

The Trump-Clinton debates will be quite something to follow, I should think. super grin
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:39 pm    Post subject: How petty can you get? Reply with quote

Several male news commentators on major networks reacted to Hillary Clinton’s DNC speech with commentary about her “shrill” voice rather than about the content of her speech, igniting a furor over the seemingly sexist remarks. The BBC’s James Naughtie ignited a backlash on the Today Programme with his remarks about Thursday’s speech by the first woman to be nominated for president by a major party. Asking aloud whether Clinton had “a bit of a woman problem,” Naughtie on Thursday said Clinton had “a slightly shrill tone” that might turn voters off. Earlier this week, NBC commentator Tom Brokaw echoed Naughtie’s comments, saying, “she’s often quite shrill and hectoring people.” PBS also came under fire for supposedly calling the presidential candidate’s delivery style “shrill” in its coverage of her historic DNC speech. Throughout her campaign, Clinton has at times faced baffling criticism of her tone of voice by American pundits. In May, MSNBC coverage of one of her speeches was interrupted so that the commentator could complain that she was speaking too loudly.

These guys are really too much. I listened to the speech and I didn't find her "shrill"... Anyway, isn't substance more important than tone or pitch of voice? Confused Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:41 pm    Post subject: 'Shrill' voice but making history Reply with quote


Hillary Accepts Presidential Nomination

Hillary Clinton accepted her party’s nomination in a forward-looking speech at the conclusion of the Democratic National Convention Thursday night. “We will not build a wall. Instead we will build an economy where everyone who wants a good job can get one. And we’ll build a path to citizens for millions of immigrants who are already contributing to our economy,” Clinton said, hitting on Trump’s trademark platforms. “Every generation of Americans has come together to make our country freer, fairer, and stronger. None of us can do it alone. That’s why we are stronger together.” Clinton also paid tribute to Senator Bernie Sanders, the main competitor of her primary campaign. “I want to thank Bernie Sanders. Bernie, your campaign inspired millions of Americans, particularly the young people who threw their hearts and souls into our primary. You put economic and social issues front and center where they belong,” Clinton said. Addressing Sanders’s supporters, Clinton said, “I’ve heard you. Your cause is our cause. Our country needs your ideas, energy, and passion. That is the only way we can turn our progressive platfrom into real change for America.”
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:40 pm    Post subject: Trump Lashes Out at DNC Critics - Except for One- A Muslim Reply with quote

Trump Lashes Out at DNC Critics -- Except for One
Rob Garver,The Fiscal Times


When she accepted the Democratic presidential nomination last night, one of the key points that Hillary Clinton made in her case against her Republican opponent, Donald Trump, is that the billionaire former reality television is too thin-skinned for the job.

“Donald Trump can't even handle the rough-and-tumble of a presidential campaign,” she said. “He loses his cool at the slightest provocation. When he's gotten a tough question from a reporter. When he's challenged in a debate. When he sees a protestor at a rally. Imagine him in the Oval Office facing a real crisis.

“A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons.”

If there was a person inside the Trump campaign to point out to the candidate that an over-the top response to Clinton’s speech and the parade of speakers criticizing him last night might just prove Clinton’s point for her, he apparently wasn’t listening.

During the Clinton speech itself, the Trump campaign fired off angry emails at the rate of one every four minutes -- 15 of them in less than an hour -- criticizing Clinton on topics ranging from immigration policy to the Middle East to the Clinton Foundation.

Within half an hour of Clinton’s final words, Team Trump released what seemed to be a hastily written statement from Trump senior policy adviser Stephen Miller that called her remarks “an insulting collection of clichés and recycled rhetoric,” among other things.

“Hillary Clinton talks about unity, about E Pluribus Unum, but her globalist agenda denies American citizens the protections to which they are all entitled – tearing us apart. Her radical amnesty plan will take jobs, resources and benefits from the most vulnerable citizens of the United States and give them to the citizens of other countries. Her refusal to even say the words ‘Radical Islam’, or to mention her disaster in Libya, or her corrupt email scheme, all show how little she cares about the safety of the American people.”

By Friday morning, Trump had moved on to Twitter, where he began by insulting Clinton and some of the people who spoke against him during the final nights of the Democratic National Convention.

Three-time New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg, who savaged Trump’s business record on Wednesday night, was granted the nickname that Trump used to reserve for Florida Sen. Marco Rubio during the primary campaign.

“‘Little’ Michael Bloomberg, who never had the guts to run for president, knows nothing about me. His last term as Mayor was a disaster!” Notably, Trump didn’t bother trying to refute Bloomberg’s criticisms. Nor did he go after the former mayor’s business record, which may not be too much of a surprise, even if you take Trump’s word that he is actually worth the $10 billion he claims, and many experts do not, Bloomberg’s more than $40 billion fortune makes Trump look like a piker.

“If Michael Bloomberg ran again for Mayor of New York, he wouldn't get 10 percent of the vote - they would run him out of town!” Trump added for good measure.

Retired Marine Corps four-star General John Allen, who endorsed Clinton Thursday and slammed Trump for his promise to compel the US military to engage in war crimes, also came under Trump’s angry gaze.

“General John Allen, who I never met but spoke against me last night, failed badly in his fight against ISIS. His record = BAD,” Trump tweeted.

Trump, of course, went after Clinton, blasting her for delivering a speech that went on too long (though it was nearly 20 minutes shorter than the one he had delivered just a week before). He added somewhat mysteriously, “Crooked Hillary Clinton made up facts about me and "forgot" to mention the many problems of our country in her very average scream!”

One person Trump did not dare attack, though, was Khizr Khan, a Muslim immigrant to the US from Pakistan, whose 27-year-old son, a US Army captain, was killed in Iraq protecting his troops from a suicide car bomber.

Khan, coolly furious, reminded Trump that his proposed ban on Muslim immigration would have prevented his son from being born in the United States. An attorney who has practiced law in Washington, DC, Khan questioned whether Trump had ever even read the US Constitution, and offered to lend him a copy.

Then, in the most powerful blow landed on Trump all evening, the father of the fallen soldier addressed Trump directly. “Have you ever been to Arlington Cemetery? Go look at the graves of the brave patriots who died defending America — you will see all faiths, genders, and ethnicities. You have sacrificed nothing. And no one.”

Trump and his team did not address Khan’s criticism at all on Friday, but for a large portion of America, it turns out, they had little reason to. Fox News, the Republican-leaning cable news operation, declined to air the speech. (How surprising!)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:45 pm    Post subject: A good sport, as usual... Reply with quote

Losing the TV Ratings, Trump Tells Supporters Not to Watch Clinton’s Finale


One of the things that couldn’t fail to strike someone who watched the Republican Presidential primary with even a moderate amount of interest was Donald Trump’s obsession with numbers reflecting people’s interest in his candidacy. Long segments of his stump speeches were simply Trump reading poll results that showed him in the lead.

He also loved to brag about the television ratings of the presidential primary debates. When the early debates broke all viewership records for primary debates, he claimed credit and started suggesting that networks be forced to donate money to a charity of his choice because of the supposed advertising bonanza they would enjoy from future debates.

When Trump skipped a debate and the ratings for it fell in comparison, he again crowed about his singular ability to draw eyeballs to the small screen.

So, even if he won’t admit it, it has to be bothering Trump that every one of the first three nights of the Democratic Convention has beaten the same night of the Republican convention in terms of television viewership.

According to Nielsen, which tracks television viewership, the first night of the Democratic convention had 26 million viewers, while the first night of the Republican convention drew 23.4 million. On night two, the Democrats drew 24.7 million compared to the Republicans’ 19.8 million.

The third night, the blockbuster for the Democrats so far that included President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and vice presidential nominee Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia, edged the Republicans’ third night despite lasting well beyond 11:30 at night, when ratings typically plunge. The Democrats drew 24 million compared to the Republicans’ 23.4 million.

While there is no way to be sure that there is any connection, it seemed a bit suspicious on Thursday when the Trump campaign sent out an email to supporters asking that they avoid watching Hillary Clinton formally accept the Democratic nomination for president in the final night of the DNC convention this evening.

The request came in the form of a fundraising email that said, in part:

“Unless you want to be lied to, belittled, and attacked for your beliefs, don't watch Hillary's DNC speech tonight ... Instead, help Donald Trump hold her accountable, call out her lies and fight back against her nasty attacks.”

The email, of course, could just be part of a run-of-the-mill fundraising effort. But given Trump’s demonstrated devotion to his role as king of the television ratings, it’s difficult not to see his hand at work here personally.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:20 pm    Post subject: Poll: Clinton Has 6 Point Lead Over Trump Reply with quote


Poll: Clinton Has 6 Point Lead Over Trump

A poll released Friday put Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton in the lead by 6 percentage points in the race against Republican Donald Trump. The poll, by Reuters/Ipsos, found that Clinton had the support of 41 percent of likely voters, compared to 35 percent for Trump. The findings, from a poll conducted from July 25-29, come after Clinton gave a landmark speech on Thursday night after accepting the Democratic presidential nomination—the first nomination of a woman by a major party in the U.S.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:43 pm    Post subject: Trump: 'I have one of the great temperaments' Reply with quote

"I have a winning temperament. She has a bad temperament. She's weak."


Trump: 'I have one of the great temperaments'
07/31/16 09:01 AM EDT

Donald Trump is pushing back on a key Democratic argument against him:
that he's dangerous and too erratic to be commander in chief.
In an interview airing Sunday on ABC's "This Week," Trump claimed
Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton is the real candidate with
the poor temperament.

"She's a very dishonest person. I have one of the great temperaments,"
Trump said. "I have a winning temperament. She has a bad temperament.
She's weak."

"I have a temperament where I know how to win. She doesn't know how to
win," he added.

Clinton has repeatedly criticized the New York real estate mogul and
entertainer as "temperamentally unfit" to be president. In her acceptance
speech at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, the former
secretary of state said of her Republican rival: "A man you can bait with
a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons."

But Trump hit back, calling his campaign "flawless," while Clinton "lies a

"You'll be writing books about this campaign. And yet, she's criticizing
my campaign," Trump said. "Now, her campaign, she couldn't beat Bernie
[Sanders], OK?," appearing to suggest that she wouldnt have defeated
Sanders without favoritism from the Democratic National Committee.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:45 pm    Post subject: To Win, Hillary Should Be Like Bernie Reply with quote


The Huffington Post
To Win, Hillary Should Be Like Bernie, New Poll Suggests
Daniel Marans
July 29, 2016

PHILADELPHIA ― If Hillary Clinton wants to win, she would do well to
channel the populist message of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

That is the main takeaway of a new survey
conducted by Democracy Corps, a Democratic-affiliated polling firm, on
behalf of the Roosevelt Institute, a progressive think tank.

Joseph Stiglitz, the Roosevelt Institute’s Nobel Prize-winning chief
economist, and Stanley Greenberg, founder of Democracy Corps, analyzed the
implications of the research at a panel discussion for attendees of the
Democratic National Convention and members of the media in downtown
Philadelphia on Thursday.

As part of a survey of 900 voters, Democracy Corps tested two different
variations of the “stronger together” message of Hillary Clinton’s
presidential campaign.

One version, which the pollsters called “build on the progress,”
celebrates the economic gains of the Obama presidency. It proposes
policies like infrastructure investment and paid family leave to lock in
those gains and ensure they are better distributed.

Another version, which Democracy Corps called “rewrite the rules,”
portrays an economy that is fundamentally broken and a rigged political
system that prevents ordinary American voters from making changes that
would improve their lives. Unlike “build on the progress,” it insists
that ending the “stranglehold of big money on our politics” is
effectively a prerequisite for achieving other progressive priorities.

While “rewrite the rules” does not identify itself as the Sanders
campaign message, it closely mirrors the Democratic presidential
candidate’s primary-season pitch to disenchanted voters.

They then compared the performance of the two messages to a “nationalist
economic” narrative of the kind being peddled by Donald Trump. The
latter message claims that the United States is being ripped off by
countries around the world, as well as unauthorized immigrants, and needs
a veteran of the business world to look out for American businesses and

Unsurprisingly, millennials, people of color and unmarried women ― all
key Democratic constituencies ― strongly preferred both “stronger
together” messages over the Trump-like “nationalist economic” one.

But the three groups also favored the “stronger together + rewrite the
rules” by a larger margin than the “stronger together + build on
progress” message.

Fifty-nine percent of millennials, 67 percent of minority voters and 54
percent of unmarried women viewed the “rewrite the rules” message
positively. By contrast, 45 percent of millennials, 53 percent of
minorities and 52 percent of unmarried women liked the “build on
progress” message.

Clinton’s overall margin of victory against Trump jumped 4 percentage
points among all the voters surveyed after they were introduced to the
“rewrite the rules” message, resulting in a 46 percent to 39 percent
win. By contrast, Clinton’s margin of victory actually declined by one
percentage point after survey participants heard the “build on
progress” message, yielding a narrower Clinton win of 43 to 41 percent.

“ When they say things are not going well, they know what they’re
talking about. Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel Prize-winning economist

As even Democracy Corps’ numbers suggests, there is more than one way to
win an election.

But the subtext of Thursday’s event is an ongoing fight between the
progressive wing of the Democratic party ― exemplified by Sanders and
Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren ― and a more business-friendly
branch dominated by elite donors.

The progressive wing of the party believes that the rising income
inequality and flat median income of the Obama years demonstrated that
more dramatic action is needed to make the economy work for ordinary
Americans. They tend to reject new trade agreements like the Trans-Pacific
Partnership negotiated by President Barack Obama; embrace deficit
spending; promote policies that strengthen labor unions; and view campaign
finance reform as a key component of accomplishing all of those things.

Seventy-one percent of Americans believe the economy is “on the wrong
track,” according to the Democracy Corps poll.

“When they say things are not going well, they know what they’re
talking about,” Stiglitz said on Thursday, before sharing a series of
statistics to substantiate his point.

“The median income of a full-time male worker is lower than it was 42
years ago,” he added. “The real wages at the bottom are roughly
comparable to where they were 60 years ago.”

Regardless of Clinton’s political options, Stiglitz, Greenberg and many
progressives in the audience expressed a hope that she will pursue a more
populist path to the White House, which they believe will create the
political rationale for a progressive agenda once she is in office.

Hillary Clinton’s campaign argues she has a strong message for these
struggling voters. Clinton has promised to sign a bill raising the federal
minimum wage to $15, increase Social Security benefits and pass a
constitutional amendment repealing the Supreme Court’s Citizens United

Clinton even told Sanders supporters that they have a role to play in her
campaign and her governing agenda.

“To all of your supporters here and around the country, I’ve heard
you,” she said Thursday night at the Democratic National Convention.
“Your cause is our cause.”

Clinton referenced the progressive Democratic Party platform that her
supporters wrote in conjunction with Sanders backers.

“Our country needs your ideas, energy and passion,” Clinton added.
“That is the only way we can turn our progressive platform into real
change for America. We wrote it together ― now let’s go out and make
it happen together.”

Clinton also promised to restore jobs that can provide Americans with
decent pay.

“My primary mission as president will be to create more opportunity and
more good jobs with rising wages right here in the United States,” she

But appealing to the business-friendly, educated Republicans and
independents turned off by Trump has arguably been a larger theme at this
week’s Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia than promising to
“rewrite the rules” of the economy. Convention speakers have included
fiscally conservative independents like former New York Mayor Mike
Bloomberg and former Reagan administration speechwriter Doug Elmets.

Speeches by Obama, vice presidential candidate Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) and
others were sprinkled with references to Republicans supportive of
Clinton’s campaign.

After Bloomberg’s ripping speech Wednesday night, Reihan Salam, a
conservative policy analyst, wrote in Slate
that Democrats are increasingly a party that caters to a coalition of
socially liberal and fiscally conservative members of the upper middle
class, which he nicknamed the “Bloombourgeoisie” for Bloomberg.

“Going forward, one can imagine a battle for the Democratic Party’s
soul that will pit the Bloombourgeoisie against the Sandernistas with both
factions fighting to win over working- and lower-middle-class minority
voters,” Salam wrote.

As Salam notes, Trump’s candidacy appears to have only accelerated an
exodus of well-off, highly educated Americans from the Republican Party
that was already underway.

Obama won eight out of 10 <http://www.cnbc.com/id/49726054> of the
country’s wealthiest counties in 2012. And a majority of the top 4
percent of earners ― those making $220,000 or more ― voted for Obama
in 2012, marking just the third time that a majority of that cohort did
not go for the Republican candidate since 1964.

Obama’s electoral victories show Democrats can win nationwide with the
help of Bloomberg-style fiscal conservatives, offsetting the shrinking
share of the white working-class vote that Democrats now receive.

Greenberg acknowledged that the growing role of ex-Republican,
upper-middle-class voters in the Democratic coalition endangers the
chances of the party’s progressive wing.

“It gets harder and harder to have this battle,” he concluded.
“That’s why we have to have it in this election.”

Daniel Marans is a general assignment reporter for Huffington Post with a
focus on politics and economic policy.
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