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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:44 am    Post subject: Read this about Brexit - sad but also funny... Reply with quote

https://www.facebook.com/veryBrexitproblems/photos/a.734576486684873.1073741828.734568236685698/889082304567623/?type=3&theater

Sorry it wouldn't let me copy and paste it for some reason grrrr..
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:00 am    Post subject: Re: Read this about Brexit - sad but also funny... Reply with quote

inkling7 wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/veryBrexitproblems/photos/a.734576486684873.1073741828.734568236685698/889082304567623/?type=3&theater

Sorry it wouldn't let me copy and paste it for some reason grrrr..

Here you are. You had to copy it as a picture, not as text.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:24 pm    Post subject: Britain wants post-Brexit security treaty with EU Reply with quote

Britain wants post-Brexit security treaty with EU
[AFP]

London (AFP) - Britain called Monday for a new security treaty with the European Union after Brexit to try and prevent terror attacks, days after a bomb exploded on a London Underground train.

London said it wanted to maintain existing partnerships with a bespoke pact that would open the door to enhanced cooperation as terror threats evolve against British and EU citizens.

The government said it was "vital" for public safety throughout Europe that Britain and the EU maintain and even enhance close collaboration after the UK leaves the bloc in March 2019.

A paper on the matter examined existing partnership agreements with countries outside the European Union but said they were not suitable because they would fall short of current capabilities.

And in the event of no deal being struck, London said it was confident that law enforcement agencies would find their own ways of working together.

"Developing a new framework to sustain this cooperation will require a shared level of ambition: the UK and the EU need to look beyond existing third country precedents," the paper said.

It said Britain should be able to reach an agreement with Europol, the EU's criminal intelligence agency, providing the same level of cooperation as now.

London is not ruling out staying inside Europol and the European Arrest Warrant system.

"The UK brings leading capabilities and expertise in security, the delivery of justice and the fight against crime and terrorism," the paper said.

"With threats evolving faster than ever before, it is in the clear interest of all citizens that the UK and EU sustain the closest possible cooperation in tackling terrorism, organised crime and other threats to security."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/britain-wants-post-brexit-security-treaty-eu-134119205.html
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:27 pm    Post subject: 'Nothing should change' Reply with quote

Nothing should change, says Britain in bid for post-Brexit security pact
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LONDON (Reuters) - Britain proposed a new post-Brexit security treaty with the European Union on Monday, seeking to maintain and intensify cooperation to thwart "ever-growing and increasingly cross-border threats".

In its sixth policy paper setting out Britain's vision for ties with the EU after it quits the bloc in March 2019, the government said it wanted to keep the benefits of EU security cooperation, arguing it was in both parties' interests to do so.

The proposal comes days after a blast on a packed commuter underground train injured 30 people in west London, Britain's fifth major attack this year.

"We already have a deep level of collaboration with the EU on security matters and it is in both our interests to find ways to maintain it," Brexit minister David Davis said in a statement.

"A new security treaty with the EU would be underpinned by our shared principles, and should make sure our partnership has the agility to respond to the ever-changing threats we face."

The paper said an entirely new form of agreement on security was necessary because there was no satisfactory precedent for security cooperation between the EU and non-EU states, and that relying on existing models would diminish British and EU defenses.

SECURITY LEVERAGE

Britain has published a series of "future partnership" policy papers to try to nudge talks with the EU forward, after they have stalled over the divorce settlement, especially over the so-called Brexit bill.

Security cooperation is seen by government officials as one of their strongest arguments to gain leverage in the complicated talks to unravel more than 40 years of union.

Seeking to ram that point home, Monday's paper simultaneously stressed Britain's importance to EU security, and the need for continued cooperation to respond to future threats as they evolve.

Interior minister Amber Rudd said Britain was one of the leading EU contributors to a range of measures, such as data and evidence sharing, extradition measures and to the EU's police agency Europol.

"Recent events in the UK and across Europe have shown the criminal and terrorist threats we face are varied and increasingly international. The long-standing collaboration we have with our European partners allows us to jointly address these threats and keep our citizens safe," she said.

"As we prepare to leave the EU it is therefore vital that we agree a new way to ensure continued security, law enforcement and criminal justice cooperation," Rudd said.

The document did not rule out Britain seeking membership of police agency Europol and other bodies, or using the European Arrest Warrant which provides fast-track extradition. Its focus, however, was finding a way to keep the "operational capabilities" provided by those instruments.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/britain-proposes-security-treaty-eu-brexit-073913058.html
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:18 am    Post subject: More Brexit Delays Reply with quote

MORE BREXIT DELAYS: Shock as German election deadlock throws major spanner into talks
GERMANY'S shock election results could mean yet more hold-ups for Brexit trade talks as Angela Merkel turns all her attention to domestic issues, ministers fear.
By Simon Osborne

Downing Street hoped concessions announced in Theresa May’s Florence address last week would kick-start stalled negotiations and pave the way for talks on a transition deal and a future relationship next month.

But Sunday’s divisive German election result, which saw a massive surge in support for the anti-EU AfD party, has thrown another spanner in the works.

Mrs Merkel clung to power for a fourth term but will be bogged down in talks for months as she tries to thrash out deals to hold together a new coalition government.

Germany still feels Britain has not done enough to move the talks on to trade unless there is some kind of unexpected breakthrough in the fourth round of negotiations in Brussels this week.

And now Mrs Merkel’s precise position on Britain’s future relationship with the EU will not be nailed down until at least Christmas which is likely to cause delay in settling the stance taken by the bloc.

Failure to give the go-ahead for the next phase of Brexit negotiations at a meeting of European leaders in October is likely to mean a delay of at least two months before the next scheduled European summit in December.

A Whitehall source told The Times: “It is clearly going to be harder for the EU to come up with a negotiating mandate for future trade talks while the composition of a new German government is unclear.

“Certainly in that context October is now looking a bit optimistic.”

Britain will probably take the blame for the delays after British and EU negotiators clashed as talks resumed.

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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/858866/brexit-latest-german-election-result-angela-merkel-brexit-talks-delays
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:35 pm    Post subject: Tories Fear Brexit Time Bomb Could Wipe Them Out Reply with quote

Brexit Time Bomb Threatens to Wipe Out the Conservative Party
The Tories have just realized their geriatric base of Leavers can’t keep them in power. And the under-40s, mostly Remainers, want nothing to do with them—a huge opening for Corbyn.
BY Nico Hines

MANCHESTER, England—Some of the most senior figures in the Conservative Party are beginning to panic. This year’s election saw the biggest generational gap in support between the two main parties that pollsters have ever recorded.

At the Conservatives’ increasingly desperate party conference held in North West England last week, many of the events put on for activists, politicians and political thinkers focused on how the hell the party was going to recapture the votes of young people.

George Freeman, the head of the prime minister’s policy board, told a fringe meeting: “We alienated a generation under 40.”

Greater numbers of young voters headed for the polls in this year’s election. A large majority of them cast votes for Labour’s radical left-wing leader, Jeremy Corbyn, who has promised to tear up the economic status quo. An unexpected surge, supported by grassroots training from Bernie Sanders alumnae, boosted the Labour vote and saw hundreds of thousands attend rallies while the chant of “Oh, Jeremy Corbyn!” (to the tune of the White Stripes’ Seven Nation Army) became the song of the summer cropping up wherever there was a young crowd from soccer matches to concerts and Glastonbury festival.

The delivery of Brexit threatens to lock-in the growing conviction among young people—who overwhelmingly voted against it—that the Conservatives are not the party for them.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:08 pm    Post subject: Which is More Stupid, Electing Trump, or Brexit? Reply with quote

Which is More Stupid, Electing Trump, or Brexit?

https://youtu.be/Gmqec9WEPZw



I was attracted by this title and am posting the video clip, but it proved to be disappointing watching. Still, I'm leaving it on, coz I find the question interesting. The two events certainly have the same type of causes. Though Brexit passed with a very low majority, with a lot of people regretting their votes when it was too late, and Trump didn't win the popular vote.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:11 am    Post subject: Warnings of a weaker, poorer Britain emerging Reply with quote

Warnings of a weaker, poorer Britain emerging ahead of breakup with European Union
Kim Wilcher, Los Angeles Times

One of the pillars of so-called Brexit belief is that leaving the European Union will put the “Great” back into Britain.

With toots of the patriotic song “Rule Britannia!” and nostalgia for the empire days of a century ago, when the Union Jack flag flew over about a quarter of the world’s land, the country would cast off the shackles of foreign meddlers and restore full sovereign powers.

So goes the mantra of those eager for Britain to exit the 28-nation EU after decades of unity and live by its own rules. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson talks of Britain as a “great ship” sailing into sunny waters.

But as negotiations move slowly toward a March 2019 breakup date, it is becoming increasingly clear to some observers that Britain risks becoming weaker, poorer and -- most damaging of all -- increasingly irrelevant.

Britain faces a firm reality of economics and politics set forth by the 27 countries it wants to leave behind, though not entirely. For many from the remaining EU countries, emphasizing other issues — such as support for Spain’s move to keep the Catalonia region from seceding — rightly places Brexit behind what is now more important for those sticking with the bloc.

Brexit, for “self-obsessed Britons… might be a sacred cause,” but not for the rest of Europe, said Guntram Wolff, director of the Brussels-based Bruegel think tank.

“Brexit is boring,” he said. “Europe has other priorities.”

That stands to be a problem for Britain, which is expected to pay the EU tens of billions of dollars to leave — how much remains undetermined — and is struggling to set up trade deals and nail down other details for business and worker relations. Uncertainty about what might happen has made many people jittery.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:13 am    Post subject: Britain set to be sick man of Europe Reply with quote

Britain set to be sick man of Europe, says Brussels
thetimes.co.uk

Britain’s economy will trail the eurozone for each of the coming three years as its growth falls to the bottom of the European Union’s 28 members, according to official forecasts from Brussels.

The single currency bloc has not grown faster than the UK since 2011 but is now expected to outpace it until at least 2019, after the European Commission downgraded Britain and upgraded the eurozone in its latest outlook.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:02 am    Post subject: May to ask Cabinet's permission to pay Brexit bill Reply with quote

Theresa May to ask Cabinet's permission to pay a £40 billion Brexit bill
Business Insider

    * Pro-Brexit ministers are expected to back Theresa May's plan to offer a £40 billion financial settlement to the European Union.
    * The PM hopes £40 billion will be enough to break the deadlock in Brexit talks.
    * Britain is facing the prospect of talks on trade and transition not beginning until 2018 unless the EU accepts its latest financial offer.

LONDON — Theresa May is today set to receive the backing of senior members of her Cabinet to make a financial offer of £40 billion to the European Union in an attempt to break the deadlock in Brexit negotiations.

The prime minister will lay out plans at a meeting of her Brexit Cabinet committee to add around £20 billion to the £20 billion she offered in her Florence speech in September, the Times reports. The EU is thought to estimate Britain's financial obligations at around £53 billion.

May's full cabinet will then rubber-stamp the decision on Wednesday, before it is made formally to European Council President Donald Tusk on Friday.

Last week it was reported that Cabinet Brexiteers Boris Johnson, David Davis and Liam Fox were unhappy with the financial offer being doubled because they believed Britain would be handing over large amounts of taxpayers' money without knowing what the EU would offer in return, specifically in regards to future trade arrangements.

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