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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 1:27 am    Post subject: Witch Hunt vs. Prosecution Reply with quote

Someone should point this out to Mike Pence, who wants the Mueller probe to pack up. More double standard here.

Ken Starr Was a Witch Hunter. Bob Mueller Is a Prosecutor.
Starr went on for four long years. No Republican said that was too long. And Mueller has a heck of a lot more to investigate than Starr did.
BY Michael Tomasky

Each time a shoe drops in the Trump investigation, this time the news about Michael Cohen’s slush fund that had people paying him $1.2 million even after they determined he couldn’t do anything for them, the Trumpy snowflakes start in. Wah wah wah. Stop the investigation. Robert Mueller is another Ken Starr! It’s the most biased investigation in the history of known civilization! If Mueller doesn’t have anything, it’s time to shut it down!

It’s all ridiculous, and worse—it is designed to discredit the investigation and prop up Donald Trump, and it will have the effect, if successful, of destroying what’s left of our democratic institutions and processes, leaving them only as things to stripped bare and used for maintaining political power.

Let’s go down the list of differences.

For starters, Mueller, unlike Starr, is a member of the president’s own party. If judges had tried to appoint a Democratic independent counsel to investigate Bill Clinton, can you imagine the conservative howling? It would never even have happened. The right would have demanded that person’s immediate resignation. And The New York Times and The Washington Post would have said, well, hmmm, they have a point.

Which brings us to another key difference, the manner in which both men were appointed. Mueller was appointed by a member of the president’s own party, Rod Rosenstein. Starr was appointed by a three-judge panel of the circuit court for the District of Columbia, two of whose members were well-known activist conservatives. One of them had called liberals “leftist heretics” (Heretics! From what?!) in a journal article.

And yet, he was permitted to take part in firing the previous special counsel, a reasonable man—but let the record note, yet another Republican—and replace him with Starr. Again, reverse it, and imagine that in 1994 that three-judge panel had been dominated by two liberals, one of whom had called conservatives “reactionary heretics,” and they appointed a Democrat.

Or imagine that Barack Obama had needed to be investigated by a special counsel, and a Democratic deputy to Eric Holder appointed a Democrat. Again, the right-wing outrage machine would never have allowed it to happen. Democrats would never have dared to even try something like this anyway. Yet Mueller’s appointment was greeted with universal approval from elected Democrats.

There is just no comparison between the two men—and all that’s not to mention how Starr went on to disgrace himself in other fields, ruining not only his reputation but that of an entire university—or the way they came to their jobs.

Or the way they did their jobs, which brings us to the shut-it-down question. Mueller was appointed just under a year ago (next week brings the one-year mark, which will bring another round of cable-news segments asking whether this has gone on too long). Starr was appointed in August 1994. Do you remember when he dropped his famous report on Congress’ doorstep? September—of 1998. Four years later.

When Starr was at the same point Mueller is now, a year in, I sure don’t remember any conservatives agreeing that he had gone on too long. Indeed, all they did for the next three years was egg him on. The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page was cooking up crackpot conspiracy theories by the week about the circumstances of Vince Foster’s “murder.” William Safire was doing the same with his little acre on the Times op-ed page, predicting Hillary Clinton’s imminent indictment.

Read more:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kenneth-starr-was-a-witch-hunter-robert-mueller-is-a-prosecutor?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:15 am    Post subject: Trump Has No Idea How Screwed He Really Is Reply with quote

Trump Has No Idea How Screwed He Really Is
The Ring of Fire
Published on May 13, 2018
Conservatives bend and twist logic at every possible opportunity in order to serve their master Donald Trump. But why? Nearly everything this man says or does can be exposed as a complete fraud, yet the MAGA crowd continues to believe that he’s the greatest president ever. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins explains why Republicans are so willing to be lied to – and why they refuse to accept reality.

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:20 am    Post subject: Mueller Is Ten Steps Ahead Of Trump Reply with quote

Trump Freaks Out As He Realizes Mueller Is Ten Steps Ahead Of Him
The Ring of Fire
Published on May 10, 2018
While many on the right claim that the lack of “progress” from the Mueller investigation shows that it needs to be shut down, the truth is that Mueller and his team know far more than anyone even realizes. After it was revealed that Michael Cohen received payments from companies like AT&T and Novartis, AT&T actually came forward and admitted that they had already told Mueller’s team about that payment in November of 2017 – a full six months before the public knew. This is likely why Trump is freaking out right now, because he understands that Mueller and his team know more than the rest of the country, and that’s bad news for this administration. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this.

https://youtu.be/m-4kc6BfDe8


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:44 pm    Post subject: Trump Needs Better “TV Lawyers” To Fight Mueller Probe Reply with quote

Trump Says He Needs Better “TV Lawyers” To Fight Mueller Probe
The Ring of Fire
Published on May 15, 2018
Donald Trump has absolutely no idea how much trouble he could be in, as evidenced by the recent reports from aides saying that the President is asking for lawyers who can perform better on TV while defending him. This isn’t a TV show, this isn’t a contest – this is a criminal investigation that could take down an entire political party, and Trump doesn’t seem to understand that. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this.

https://youtu.be/B1mMy4UVjyI


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:34 am    Post subject: Interesting Reply with quote

It will be interesting to see which party goes down in flames first.....
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:50 am    Post subject: Going down in flames Reply with quote

What do you mean which party goes down in flames first? It looks like the Republican Party is already going down in flames so it went first it seems.... super grin
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: Going down in flames Reply with quote

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What do you mean which party goes down in flames first? It looks like the Republican Party is already going down in flames so it went first it seems.... super grin

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:26 pm    Post subject: Mueller's 'witch hunt' has caught a lot of witches Reply with quote

Mueller's 'witch hunt' has caught a lot of witches
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Published on May 17, 2018
CNN's John Berman looks at White House depictions of the Mueller investigation one year on.

https://youtu.be/_qWCSBFry4k


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject: Facing Probe, Trump Uniting Far Right Base Reply with quote

Facing Robert Mueller Probe, President Donald Trump Uniting Far Right Base
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Published on May 18, 2018
Facing a growing threat from Mueller's investigation, President Trump has been focused on uniting his right-wing base on multiple fronts.

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 2:51 pm    Post subject: New Rule: Trump Is Above the Law Reply with quote

Bill Maher is so funny with his straight-faced, tongue-in-cheek joking! shameless grin

New Rule: Trump Is Above the Law
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Published on May 18, 2018

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