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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:52 pm    Post subject: Looking ahead to 2020 (2) Reply with quote

Admin's Note: In the chaos following the crash, we thought this thread lost and started another under the same title. So now we have two...

Echo Chamber
Breitbart News Helped Trump Win. Under Steve Bannon, It Might Also Help Him Lose
Breitbart News’ power was most in evidence during Donald Trump’s election campaign. But now Steve Bannon and his team speak to an ever-shrinking, vote-losing echo chamber.
Lloyd Grove

Breitbart News was the bright, shiny object of 2016, when the angry-populist, nationalist, right-wing web operation went all-in for Donald Trump, and the bet paid off with lavish winnings.

But as 2017 draws to a close, reality has inevitably intruded, and the tendentious news site—founded a decade ago by the late Andrew Breitbart as a rebellious antidote to what he saw as the hypocrisies of the political and media establishments—spent the first year of Trump’s volatile presidency losing its former luster.

“It’s still Breitbart, and it still helps set the narrative in the right-wing echo chamber,” conservative pundit Charlie Sykes told The Daily Beast. “But I would say that the base continues shrinking, and they’re going to be the loudest intercom within the Trump bunker as we head into 2018. They will appeal to the 30 percent of hardcore Trump supporters. They will help set the tone for the Trump defense. But, again, it is a shrinking universe.”

At its heart, argued Angelo Carusone—president of the left-leaning press-watchdog organization Media Matters for America—Breitbart is becoming “a cult of personality,” with a core message that is increasingly about celebrating Stephen K. Bannon. He’s the website’s colorful and quotable executive chairman, whose oracular pronouncements about politics and policy are frequently touted in Breitbart’s headlines.

“A guy who is really as drivingly influential as Bannon would like you to believe he is doesn’t do a three-hour radio show every morning,” Carusone told The Daily Beast, referring to Bannon’s hosting of Breitbart News Daily on SiriusXM. “This is all about himself. He’s high on his own supply.”

While Bannon reportedly speaks regularly to Trump, “Steve constantly goes a bridge too far, and usually the bridge falls apart,” said Chris Ruddy, a friend of the president’s and chief executive of the conservative-leaning Newsmax cable television and online outlet. “I hope the president continues to listen to Steve’s advice—and then does the opposite.”

The 64-year-old Bannon—who was in Tokyo giving a speech to the Japanese version of the Conservative Political Action Conference, and then traveling to the Middle East to spread the Breitbart nationalist gospel and market his ambitions for expansion, according to a spokesperson—declined to comment for this article.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/breitbart-news-helped-trump-win-under-steve-bannon-it-might-also-help-him-lose?via=newsletter&source=DDMorning
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:38 pm    Post subject: It's The Presidency, Not A TV Show Reply with quote

Joy Reid On Donald Trump's 2020 Comment: It's The Presidency, Not A TV Show
In a new New York Times interview, Trump talks about the presidency in terms of ratings. Joy Reid tells Ari Melber that Trump shows he doesn't understand the "servant-leader model of the U.S." – he's "not a product on TV", but is there to improve Americans' lives.

https://youtu.be/Vn1QFzSTJYs


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:49 am    Post subject: Who Will Challenge Trump In 2020? Reply with quote

Who Will Challenge Trump In 2020?
Who will be the Democratic candidate in 2020?

https://youtu.be/fLxnfVNZC9w


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:33 pm    Post subject: Trump predicts 2020 victory with help from media Reply with quote

Hah, thought I'd give you Trump haters a different point of view. Seems to me UnMask needs a helping hand around here. super grin

Trump predicts 2020 victory with help from media
Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk, Fox News contributor Kat Timpf and Reason editor-at-large Matt Welch respond to President Trump’s comments to the New York Times that he will win re-election in 2020 with the help of the media.

https://youtu.be/Dj3u_zFZyhg



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Trump predicts the media will help him get reelected
“The Conservative Millennial” blogger Allie Stuckey, American Majority CEO Ned Ryun and Rasmussen Reports political analyst Amy Holmes on President Trump’s belief that the media will help him win the next presidential election.

https://youtu.be/2tzWevZ-jd0


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:42 pm    Post subject: Another goose! Reply with quote

OMGawd! We got ourselves another goose! bleh

Good to have the other side's viewpoint. Makes the discussion more interesting. super grin
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Another goose! Agains a flock of geese! Reply with quote

Le NewYorkais wrote:
OMGawd! We got ourselves another goose! bleh

Good to have the other side's viewpoint. Makes the discussion more interesting. super grin

I did think you guys needed to see things from the other perspective. We'll see who'll end up getting egg on their faces. Twisted Evil

Didn't you say Trump would never be nominated, let alone elected? Look where we are now! super grin Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:29 pm    Post subject: Joe Biden Would 'Win Overwhelmingly' Against Trump Reply with quote

Joe Biden Would 'Win Overwhelmingly' Against Trump in 2020, Former DNC Chair Ed Rendell Says
"To me it's clear-cut: Joe Biden is our superstar," Ed Rendell said.
by Jason Silverstein

Former Vice President Joe Biden would “win overwhelmingly” against President Donald Trump in 2020 and is the only “superstar” the Democrats could run for the White House, a former Democratic National Committee chairman said Sunday.

“There's only one person I can say who will definitely win the election and has a superstar appeal in almost every state in the union, and that's Vice President Biden,” Ed Rendell said on John Catsimatidis’ AM 970 radio show in New York.

“To me it’s clear-cut: Joe Biden is our superstar,” Rendell added. “If he decides to run I think he will win overwhelmingly.”

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Rendell, a former Pennsylvania governor who led the DNC from 1999 to 2001, noted that age might be the biggest factor working against Biden, who turned 75 in November. But in a race against the 71-year-old Trump, who is the oldest first-term president in American history, Rendell said age would only be a number.

“Of course, people say [Biden's] too old. But he's only a year and a half older than President Trump, and he's in infinitely better shape,” Rendell said.

“I don't think age would be a factor in a Biden-Trump election.”

Someone who shares Rendell’s work history recently argued the opposite. Howard Dean, who was DNC chair from 2005 to 2009, said last week that he believes old people such as himself need to “get the hell out of politics” for 2020 and make way for a younger generation of leaders. Dean specifically cited Biden and Independent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who is 76, as popular potential candidates who he said are not what the country will need.

“This young generation is going to pay for that if we don’t get the hell out of the way and have somebody who is 50 running the country,” Dean, 69, told NBC News’ Morning Joe.

Biden and Sanders are among the most commonly-cited names for a possible 2020 Democratic run, though neither has officially announced any intention to compete against Trump. Biden considered running for president in 2016, but after agonizing about the decision he announced in October 2015 that he would not. After Hillary Clinton lost the White House to Trump, Biden said he believed he could have beaten Trump and that he regrets not running. Biden, an outspoken Trump critic, has alluded to an interest in considering a run.

Looking to 2020, Rendell said he believed the Democrats need a candidate who is not too far to the left because it might mobilize right-wing and Tea Party voters in much greater numbers.

“What I think the nation is looking for is not left or right necessarily, but actual real answers to the problems and challenges that face us,” he said.

http://www.newsweek.com/biden-win-overwhelmingly-2020-trump-dnc-766835

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I did think you guys needed to see things from the other perspective. We'll see who'll end up getting egg on their faces. Twisted Evil

Yes indeed we shall see. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:00 pm    Post subject: We too are looking ahead to 2020! :D Reply with quote

Looking ahead to the 2020 race, GOP jostling is already underway
By Steve Benen

Before Ted Cruz’s memorable remarks at the Republican National Convention last night, the Texas senator hosted an outdoor event with supporters in Cleveland yesterday afternoon. As luck would have it, Donald Trump’s plane flew overhead when Cruz said the party had a nominee – and his backers started booing.

And while the timing was notable, so too was the fact that Cruz’s supporters chanted “2020” during the event.

I don’t think they were talking about the senator’s eyesight. In fact, as ridiculous as this may seem to Americans who are already tired of the 2016 presidential race, there is little doubt that Republican jostling is well underway – in the 2020 race.
    Before voters have even cast their ballots in the 2016 election, some conservatives are quietly eyeing 2020 White House bids. […]

    If you squint just a bit, it looks an awful lot like 2020 just kicked off.

Some of these folks aren’t exactly being subtle. Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) scheduled three separate meetings with GOP delegates from Iowa, giving him an opportunity to not only pitch his right-wing worldview, but also the fact that his wife is from – you guessed it – Iowa. (The Arkansan also took his message to South Carolina Republicans.)

Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), meanwhile, spoke to members of the New Hampshire delegation this week.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), apparently undeterred by his failed 2016 bid, reportedly lined up meetings with Republican delegates from Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina.

But it’s probably fair to say no one is doing more in advance of the 2020 race than Cruz. Last night’s refusal to support Donald Trump was the senator’s way of throwing down the gauntlet, but that’s not all he’s doing.

National Review published this piece two weeks ago:
    Ted Cruz has been conspicuously silent since his return to Capitol Hill from the campaign trail, but the gears, as always, are turning. Behind closed doors Cruz has been supervising the vast expansion of his electoral enterprise, integrating the operations of his campaign team – policy, political, financial – in an effort to harness his newfound national following with an eye on 2020.

    Central to these plans is the creation of two new affiliated nonprofits, their names to be announced in the coming days, which will effectively keep Cruz’s political machinery humming over the next four years. These groups, one a 501(c)3 and the other a 501(c)4, will be responsible for everything from championing Cruz’s legislative priorities to maintaining his donor database and coordinating his early-state travel.

One might start to get the impression that ambitious Republicans don’t expect Trump to win in November. (*)

(*) He may or may not, but good to be prepared. Plus, those other Reps want the job too! You Dems will have a fight on your hands. super grin
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:14 am    Post subject: Looking ahead to 2020 Reply with quote

What about the Democrats?

I heard Biden may run. He should have run last time. He's less polarizing than Hillary is. He probably would have beaten Trump.

Ah well. Spilt milk... Sad

As to Oprah running. I hope that's a joke. Though we thought Trump running was a joke too, so who knows?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:17 pm    Post subject: What Trump Fears Most Reply with quote

Satire from The Borowitz Report
Trump Fears Next Election Will Be Decided by Americans

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Donald J. Trump is “scared to death” that the 2020 Presidential election will be decided by Americans, an aide to Trump has confirmed.

The aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said that Trump is panicking over a doomsday scenario in which Americans, sidelined during the 2016 election, play a dominant role in influencing the 2020 contest.

“It sounds paranoid, but, as we speak, representatives of the United States are already plotting to remove him from office in 2020,” the aide said. “They are determined to replace him with someone who takes a move favorable view toward their country.”

The aide said that the Americans, frustrated by Trump’s open hostility to the United States since taking office, will “stop at nothing” to achieve their ultimate goal: installing an agent of the U.S. in the Oval Office.

“It’s pretty clear what the Americans are up to,” the aide said. “They want a puppet who will do the bidding of the United States of America.”

While Trump has reportedly ordered his staff to do everything in its power to prevent Americans from meddling in the 2020 election, the prospect of U.S. nationals deciding the next Presidential race has clearly left the White House rattled.

“Americans are going to use voter registration, social media, and anything else at their disposal to hand the election to someone who will advance their interests,” he said. “That’s what keeps Trump up at night.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-fears-next-election-will-be-decided-by-americans
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