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The Universality of Myth and Folklore

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: The Universality of Myth and Folklore Reply with quote

I didn't find my tales and legends, but I did find an article I wrote for Mimi News about the Universality of Myth and Folklore, which you'll find here:


and here (the follow-up story) - Half bottom of page, after article by Xuân Phong (yes, our XP from this forum!)


End of same article here:

Hope it's legible! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:58 pm    Post subject: My article on Harry Potter Reply with quote

It's a very old one, written after the first movie came out, along with the first of the LOTR trilogy. I made a mistake about the Battle of the Pelennor Fields (where Eowyn and Merry defeat the King of the Nazgûl), it's not in the second book, it's in the third and last one. The point made remains valid. Very Happy


And the sentence at the very end should read "With apologies to Vu Qui Hao Nhiên for "borrowing" his punch line." The word "borrowing" was missing, making the sentence hard to understand. bleh

Talking of which, let me try to find Nhiên's article on Harry Potter too. Here it is (go to the right of the picture, it's on p. 15):


That's Nhiên in the picture, wearing a Hogwarts cap and reading a HP book. shameless grin
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:18 pm    Post subject: Confirmation of your theory, LadyDragon! Reply with quote

Popular fairy tales and folk stories are more ancient than was previously thought, according research by biologists.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6142964/Fairy-tales- have-ancient-origin.html

The Telegraph, London
By Richard Gray, Science Correspondent
Published: 9:00PM BST 05 Sep 2009

They have been told as bedtime stories by generations of parents, but fairy tales such as Little Red Riding Hood may be even older than was previously thought.

A study by anthropologists has explored the origins of folk tales and traced the relationship between varients of the stories recounted by cultures around the world.

The researchers adopted techniques used by biologists to create the taxonomic tree of life, which shows how every species comes from a common ancestor.

Dr Jamie Tehrani, a cultural anthropologist at Durham University, studied 35 versions of Little Red Riding Hood from around the world.

Whilst the European version tells the story of a little girl who is tricked by a wolf masquerading as her grandmother, in the Chinese version a tiger replaces the wolf.

In Iran, where it would be considered odd for a young girl to roam alone, the story features a little boy.

Contrary to the view that the tale originated in France shortly before Charles Perrault produced the first written version in the 17th century, Dr Tehrani found that the varients shared a common ancestor dating back more than 2,600 years.

He said: “Over time these folk tales have been subtly changed and have evolved just like an biological organism. Because many of them were not written down until much later, they have been misremembered or reinvented through hundreds of generations.

“By looking at how these folk tales have spread and changed it tells us something about human psychology and what sort of things we find memorable.

“The oldest tale we found was an Aesopic fable that dated from about the sixth century BC, so the last common ancestor of all these tales certainly predated this. We are looking at a very ancient tale that evolved over time.”

Dr Tehrani, who will present his work on Tuesday at the British Science Festival in Guildford, Surrey, identified 70 variables in plot and characters between different versions of Little Red Riding Hood.

He found that the stories could be grouped into distinct families according to how they evolved over time.

The original ancestor is thought to be similar to another tale, The Wolf and the Kids, in which a wolf pretends to be a nanny goat to gain entry to a house full of young goats.

Stories in Africa are closely related to this original tale, whilst stories from Japan, Korea, China and Burma form a sister group. Tales told in Iran and Nigeria were the closest relations of the modern European version.

Perrault’s French version was retold by the Brothers Grimm in the 19th century. Dr Tehrani said: “We don’t know very much about the processes of transmission of these stories from culture to culture, but it is possible that they may being passed along trade routes or with the movement of people.”

Professor Jack Zipes, a retired professor of German at the University of Minnesota who is an expert on fairy tales and their origins, described the work as “exciting”. He believes folk tales may have helped people to pass on tips for survival to new generations.

He said: “Little Red Riding Hood is about violation or rape, and I suspect that humans were just as violent in 600BC as they are today, so they will have exchanged tales about all types of violent acts.

“I have tried to show that tales relevant to our adaptation to the environment and survival are stored in our brains and we consistently use them for all kinds of reference points.”
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